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Urban Warfare [Sep. 24th, 2011|05:16 pm]
Tony Grist
There are kids out the back throwing stones at other kids- some of which land in our back yard- so Aliz and I go out and sort of stand there and quietly object (no shouting) and that defuses things. A small boy (reaching to my elbow, maybe a little higher) aims a final verbal insult at his foes- who happen to be girls, "I have only one thing to say to you:- YOU FAGGOTS!"
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[User Picture]From: ingenious76
2011-09-24 04:27 pm (UTC)
Oh joy. Another homophobic, mysogynistic arsehole-in-training.

Edited at 2011-09-24 04:27 pm (UTC)
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2011-09-24 04:32 pm (UTC)
He was very proud of himself for knowing such a grown-up word- though the context suggests he had no idea what it meant.
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[User Picture]From: ingenious76
2011-09-24 04:38 pm (UTC)
It really disturbs me that so many kids use "gay" in a perjorative sense. Its consider an offence to use racist terms in this way - so why not homophobic?
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2011-09-24 05:01 pm (UTC)
I agree. But it's probably too late to do anything about it. A generation has grown up thinking "gay" means "lame".



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[User Picture]From: ingenious76
2011-09-24 05:02 pm (UTC)
It appalls me, frankly. I got really angry at a kid once and absolutely blasted him for calling someone "gay" in a negative sense. I pointed out that you wouldn't use racist terms in that manner, so why use homophobic?
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2011-09-24 05:26 pm (UTC)
I think it rather depends on whether the kid knows what he/she is doing.

My parents once blasted me for saying "damn" (autre temps, autre moeurs) and it rankled with me for years. I hadn't known what a frightful word it was- I just thought I was being grown-up.
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[User Picture]From: wemyss
2011-09-24 08:31 pm (UTC)

If an Americanism, it's unpleasant.

But it mayn't be, you know. It did after all long belong to the same class of word as besom, trout, baggage, and the rest, as in 'miserable old' whatever-it-was.
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2011-09-25 09:37 am (UTC)

Re: If an Americanism, it's unpleasant.

Quite right. In the olden days (meaning when I was a kid) "faggot" was mild and even faintly endearing. It had no sexual overtones- in fact rather the reverse. A faggot was someone beyond sex.
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[User Picture]From: heleninwales
2011-09-25 02:02 pm (UTC)

Re: If an Americanism, it's unpleasant.

Or something you eat with peas and gravy. :)

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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2011-09-25 02:52 pm (UTC)

Re: If an Americanism, it's unpleasant.

That too....:)
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[User Picture]From: daisytells
2011-09-24 09:08 pm (UTC)
Back in the dark ages, when I was 12 or so (1950's) kids called other kids "fags" when they did not conform to the rules of "cool" (only I think they called "cool" "hep" back then). I got the label when I was the first, but not the last, kid in the neighborhood to wear Bermuda shorts.
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2011-09-25 09:41 am (UTC)
In 1950s British usage(as Wemyss points out) a faggot was a silly, dried up old person and a fag (completely unrelated) was a cigarette. Actually, "fag" meaning cigarette is still current.
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[User Picture]From: jourdannex
2011-09-24 09:48 pm (UTC)
it would have been awesome if one of the little girls retorted "actually we would be lesbians if you are going to be technical about it."

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[User Picture]From: faunhaert
2011-09-24 11:29 pm (UTC)
they'd have to know what faggot meant

the kid might have thought it meant bits of knotty wood?
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2011-09-25 09:43 am (UTC)
He knew it was rude, but that's all.
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2011-09-25 09:42 am (UTC)
Wouldn't it just!
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[User Picture]From: veronikos
2011-09-25 12:12 pm (UTC)
Awesome story.
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2011-09-25 01:10 pm (UTC)
Thank you.
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[User Picture]From: ibid
2011-09-26 11:37 am (UTC)
At least he stopped throwing stones.
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2011-09-26 01:00 pm (UTC)
That's the main thing. We were afraid for our windows.
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