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Holy Scripture [Jun. 21st, 2011|11:23 am]
Tony Grist
I attended theological college in the 1970s- where I was taught that the old testament is unhistorical, the gospels utterly unreliable, the sayings of Jesus plagiarised  and the whole Bible (though it wasn't put that way) a crazy patchwork of lies and forgeries.  I was then expected to go out and preach from it as if I believed it was the Word of God.

It did my head in. 

When I became a witch I made a virtue out of there being no such thing as a Wiccan scripture.  

[User Picture]From: airstrip
2011-06-21 12:13 pm (UTC)
When I read Lossky, he made a big deal out of the direct revelation of God on Earth through practice of religion. I think that's the best you could do in that instance, at which point, though, I don't see much reason to lighten your backpack and chuck the book itself.

Every once in a while, I feel an urge to preach, which is a strange thing for an atheist.
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2011-06-21 12:54 pm (UTC)
It's a good feeling, up there in the pulpit, with all those expectant faces tilted up towards you..
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[User Picture]From: aellia
2011-06-21 12:22 pm (UTC)
An interesting quiz here

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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2011-06-21 01:09 pm (UTC)
That was tricky.

I did less well than I'd expected.
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[User Picture]From: craftyailz
2011-06-21 01:10 pm (UTC)
My problem was always that I believed. From being a child I believed what I was told in Church. Once I was confirmed I felt better for having communion. Then I learn more and discover that I'm not supposed to take the bible literally - it should be on the level of the tooth fairy and father Xmas - except that Father Xmas seems to have some basis in fact. When I left my husband and my vicar refused me communion I accepted his right to do so.

No wonder I turned away from Christianity - if you ask questions the answers are that you're moron, you should realise the difference between the true bits and the other stuff. B***sh*t.
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[User Picture]From: wolfshift
2011-06-21 01:15 pm (UTC)
Yes, I can imagine that would be asking a bit too much. It sounds like it boils down to being asked to make a career out of lying to people.
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2011-06-21 02:20 pm (UTC)
That's what it came to. After ten years I could no longer do the mental gymnastics.
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[User Picture]From: daisytells
2011-06-21 03:36 pm (UTC)
What kind of "theological" college would teach its students that the scriptures are lies? Just asking...
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[User Picture]From: daisytells
2011-06-21 03:37 pm (UTC)
And then, also asking its students to teach those alleged "lies" to their future flocks?
No wonder religion has fallen upon bad times!
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[User Picture]From: ooxc
2011-06-21 05:00 pm (UTC)
Things had changed considerably by 1988. On the first day we were told that the first year would be spent tearing everything to pieces, the second year would be spent putting things together "after a fashion", and the third should be spent making up our own minds.
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2011-06-21 06:44 pm (UTC)
I don't think things can be put back together. God knows I tried.
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[User Picture]From: ideealisme
2011-06-21 10:57 pm (UTC)
My friend did Theology in her degree in college - and then (via IT which she kinda failed) made a career as an accountant. I warned her that one cannot serve God and Mammon. She is now dead so I wonder if, inadvertently, I was right :(
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2011-06-22 08:19 am (UTC)
Oh dear.

Had she been intending a career in the church?
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[User Picture]From: raakone
2011-06-22 03:54 am (UTC)
Why does this sound so much like 1984? Don't believe any lies unless they're from us.....and tell others 2 + 2 is 4 when it's actually 5! But questioning is a thoughtcrime, because it is doubleplus ungood!

"Wicca"? Happy Summer Solstice to you, then!
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2011-06-22 08:23 am (UTC)
Orwell was telling it like it is.

I don't identify as a Wiccan any longer- not really. If pushed very hard I might describe myself as a Pagan.

Happy Solstice to you too!
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