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Adult Content [Dec. 2nd, 2007|12:40 pm]
Tony Grist
Children need to know. 

They need to find out as much as they can as fast as they can in order to arm themselves against the world.

It isn't doing them any favours to thwart their curiosity.

By all means protect them from predators, but protecting them from ideas and images is itself a form of abuse.

Do you really think children are angels? Get real. Have you forgotten everything?

Children are animals. 

I was far more depraved at six than I am now.
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[User Picture]From: upasaka
2007-12-02 01:12 pm (UTC)
HEAR! HEAR!
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2007-12-02 01:19 pm (UTC)
Thank you.
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[User Picture]From: veronica_milvus
2007-12-02 03:01 pm (UTC)
Ah... is this a response to the "Adult Content" filter fetish that LJ is currently suffering from? The "Fortysomething" community has adopted it, goodness knows why, whereas some of the really pornographic LJ sites ar unencumbered with such niceties. It is a mad world.
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2007-12-02 03:39 pm (UTC)
Yes it is. A lot of my friends have been discussing it and I thought I'd add my sixpenn'orth.
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[User Picture]From: idahoswede
2007-12-02 03:23 pm (UTC)
Children notice what goes on around them, but I do have to admit, internally I was gasping when I heard a girl that could not have been older than 11-12 talking about a "he-she" on the tram, and then she went on to define it as "ya know, both balls and fanny". I wish kids barely scraping puberty didn't know quite that much.
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2007-12-02 03:47 pm (UTC)
I was having fantasies about gender-bending, sadomasochistic sex orgies when I was much younger than 11.

I knew next to nothing but I clearly intuited a lot.
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[User Picture]From: veronica_milvus
2007-12-02 07:40 pm (UTC)
I think a lot of us had very strange fantasies as pre-pubescents. I would not even discuss what went through my head at that age and I shudder to think how I knew enough to imagine it. I tell myself it was a reaction against lack of empowerment. eeewww
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2007-12-02 09:48 pm (UTC)
I think we're born with the knowledge- just as animals are.
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From: pop_o_pie
2007-12-02 03:56 pm (UTC)

We teach by example...

It doesn't matter as much what we tell children as much as it matters what we show them. We don't learn sexuality in a vacuum. It is a part of our waking reality as much as the morals, ethics and values we assimilate and the foods we like.
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2007-12-02 04:00 pm (UTC)

Re: We teach by example...

I totally agree.

Example is more powerful than any amount of show and tell.
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[User Picture]From: internet_sampo
2007-12-02 04:48 pm (UTC)
I don't know whether to agree with you wholeheartedly or to say that adults are just better at hiding their depravity (from others and themselves).
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2007-12-02 05:12 pm (UTC)
Adults are more skilled- at concealment and control.
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From: sculptruth
2007-12-02 07:18 pm (UTC)
And denial, don't forget.

Great post. I work with kids, and remember my own childhood vividly-- they're no different; just younger. "Innocence" is strictly a fantasy entertained by adults. Children know better.
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2007-12-03 09:24 am (UTC)
Children are ignorant- in that they're starved of information- but that's not quite the same as being innocent.
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From: fickleasever
2007-12-02 08:59 pm (UTC)
I would have agreed completely at one time, but having discovered so many people who, as children, were abused, I know there are a lot of people in their teens and older who would be badly affected by a lot of 'adult content'. It's different when there's a site which shows itself openly to be overtly sexual, but I think when it occurs out of the blue, as it frequently does in journals and blogs, it can hurt.

Anyway, this stuff in LJ is only, in effect, adding a disguised lj-cut to the posts in question, and any kid who wants to look, will look. And yeah, as someone else has said, they can easily lie about their age.
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2007-12-03 09:36 am (UTC)
You're raising a whole new issue here- the question of what we do to protect damaged adults and I've got to say I find this really difficult. All my instincts are against censorship. And sometimes a writer wants to deliver a cathartic shock by introducing something shocking "out of the blue"- and to flag it up in advance would spoil the effect.
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