I've not seen the new advert- not much of one for tv ads.
But let me conjecture this - the moment Bob Dylan started performing for money, and accepting money for his songs, he became the kind of creature you're talking about. So are we all - except, I suppose, for you, because you don't have a regular job.
That sounds nasty, and I don't mean it to. We all have to live, and most of us have to live by working and being paid.
COTY offered Gordon Lightfoot some serious money for "The Last Time" (the last time I saw her face, her eyes were bathed in starlight and her hair hung long...) back in the days when he was barely keeping his body and soul together. He told them he would rather starve than have his music in a commercial. At first I thought that was admirable - but now, I realize that it really makes very little difference. Like the rest of us, he has to make his living and he choses to do so by selling little bits of himself.
That's my opinion.
I don't mind struggling actors appearing in commercials. It's when people who are already rich and famous sell their celebrity to "The Man".
Yeah, I know, I'm an old hippie.
YOu and I are pretty much the same age, and I agree with you. I really do. I don't mind when Garrison Keillor uses his voice to sell cars - because I get mailings from him about 'really good stuff' which turns out to be under the umbrella of Prairie Home productions. And I don't really mind when actors do voice overs for commercials - because after all, that's what they do, read lines for a living.
But the lingerie commercial with Dylan really amazed me. Why would he do that?
Because they payed him a HUGE amount of money. And after all these years, he's used to living comfortably.
So, yes. I really do agree with you. And will continue to be disappointed when things like this happen.
ON the other hand, I've seen some pretty cute commercials from people I never expected to see. After he lost the presidential election to Bill Clinton, Bob Dole did an American Express commercial -- the "do you know who I am" one. It was funny, and done with Bob Dole self deprication.
Garrison Keillor has a lovely voice. He doesn't have that high a profile over here, but he does do a number of voice-overs. I couldn't tell you which products he endorses- I don't listen to what he says- I just sit back and bask in those warm carressing tones.
It's always distubred me too when music legends do these ridiculous commercials. Don't they have enough money already?
Well, like Dylan said during his born-again Christian phase, "you gotta serve somebody..."
You'd think Dylan would be rolling in it, wouldn't you? I wonder what he's worth.
I don't have any problem with actors appearing in commercials, after all, that's what they do, they take on various roles and act them out. Adverts are often little dramas anyway. Likewise song writers sell performance rights to songs. If they're happy to have one of their compositions used for an advert, I don't see it as selling out.
I am, however, a little uneasy when people who are well known in their own right do adverts, for example politicians or news readers or documentary presenters. This is much more of an, "I'm trustworthy and I endorse this product," sort of thing and I don't really like that -- unless they genuinely do swear by product X or service Y.
Ken Dryden (former goalie for the Toronto Maple Leafs and now member of Parliament in Canada) wrote about such things in his autobiography. He didn't (at the time he wrote the book) appear in commercials for products he did not use and believe in.
Of course, now, as a politician, maybe things have changed. I hope not.
I remember Richard Briers (I think it was him) saying that it's thanks to all his voiceovers that he can afford to work in the theatre.
I agree about the trust thing. I know David Attenborough has said he'll never do a commercial for just that reason.
>>>>Because now she's appearing in an ad for pasta. Anne the crusader becomes Anne the pasta salesperson. Doesn't she see how this wipes out everything she ever stood for, everything she ever did?
I haven't seen the advertisement, but is it so impossible that she really likes the pasta?
What really annoys me is voiceovers that sound like a well-known voice but aren't the person.
I like pasta too, but I'd think twice about endorsing any particular brand.
If I were a celeb and someone was imitating my voice in ads I'd be extremely cross.
It really doesn´t bother me to see actors and singers/musicians doing ads although some of them look uneasy all the while. It´s a job. And I usually don´t pay much attention to advertising anyway. I haven´t seen the car ad by Dylan.
It does bother me to see polticians, though. Somehow they don´t belong in the artsy category but are more about public trust (hopefully) and seeing them selling pasta and baby nappies...well...no, just no.
And maybe that´s a biased thought but there it is.
It's a biased thought I thoroughly endorse.
I don't tend to see adverts so I don't tend to be bothered by this sort of thing, but I think in some cases it's about celebrity placement and keeping them visible as much as anything. Not just to the us, either, but to people who might want to employ them.
I think Stephen Fry started doing Twinings when he was on our small screens much, for example, though that might not have anything to do with anything, I admit. I'm talking from deep inside my hat.
I hate adverts. I deconstruct them in my head. I shout at them.
Fry and Twinings are a pretty good match. It's not to hard to believe he may actually drink the stuff.
Heh, if I actually watched them I'd be exactly the same :~)
I don't mind celebrity and advertising but I would think (call me crazy) that a celebrity might want to consider their position, take advantage of their high profile nature, and choose their adverts and products wisely.
For example, the Cadillac Escalade--a beast of a vehicle that only the very upper middle class and above can drive in this country. What message is that? Who is his audience? I understand he's also plugging XM radio and the show he hosts on it, but perhaps there are other ways to promote it besides advertising an environmentally/economically hostile lifestyle.
Yikes, I went off. But I stand by it.
Dylan and Victoria's Secret was weird but not particularly offensive, but Dylan and a gas guzzler is beyond weird. It's not entirely clear what he stands for these days but I guess we all believed that whatever it is it wasn't that.
Most TV commercials these days are like little mini-shows, almost entertainment in their own right, and those don't bother me so much. Celeb stands there, sells a product, and keeps their face in the public eye. I can respect a celeb who does this, because hey, they're doing what they always do--they're entertaining me.
It's the half-hour 'paid advertisement not sponsored by this network' spiels in which celebrities are paid to talk about how this product they probably never heard of before radically changed their life and is responsible for their success in the business--those are the ones that bug me. Celeb isn't selling the product, they're selling their reputation, and to me that's not just a job, that's whoring oneself out. It's hard to respect this sort of celeb.
There are always exceptions, though. I almost had a fit when I saw the Muppets being used to sell cars...
A really clever ad can be entertaining the first time you see it, but when it's been repeated four or five times you just want to scream when it comes round. Funny ones are the worst. I'm like, "how dare you tell me that lame old joke again?"
The only ones I tolerate are the ones with really elaborate special effects. And the ones where they throw lots and lots of weird images at you in rapid succession and you have to watch them several times to work out what exactly you've seen.
"I know Bob has previous. He did a lingerie ad."
What did he wear?
I like a lot of Dylan's music, but don't much like him doing it. He's one of the few people whose music I like to hear cover versions of. (Bad grammar, sorry). The fact that he's doing ads doesn't bother me...
Anne Widdicombe I'm afraid I have no time for. I think she's a bully. If she wants to make pasta commercials, fine. I suppose it shows that she's vaguelly human.
Widdecombe is a person of limited imagination. I've never liked her.
But then I'd have difficulty identifying a mainstream politician I did like.
Tony Benn perhaps?
The only politician I can think of who I really liked is, alas, now dead. That was Mo Mowlam.
Yes, Mo was OK.
(And I have a bit of a thing for Abraham Lincoln)