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What's Sauce For The Goose... [Oct. 9th, 2007|10:28 am]
Tony Grist
Ron Wood of the Rolling Stones is having his autobiography serialised in the Mail.

(No, I don't buy the Mail. My in-laws do and they give us their old copies to line the rabbits' litter trays)

Ron is a bad boy. He and George Harrison (no, not my saintly George!) did a bit of wife swapping back in the day, Keith Richards drew a derringer on Ron, so he drew his Magnum, the whole pack of them were gobbling down Class A drugs like there was no tomorrow.

And it builds the legend. This is what rockers do. 

But if a little girl like Britney tries to live like a Rolling Stone- phew- the moralising, the long lenses, the lip-licking disapproval.

I'm not saying I like it how Britney is living her life- or Kate Moss or Amy Winehouse. All I'm saying is- equality of censure.
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[User Picture]From: pondhopper
2007-10-09 11:20 am (UTC)
Agreed. Unfortunately we still live in a world of male-female unequality.
I get very angry when that double standard rears its ugly head. I guess it still sells the rags, though.
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2007-10-09 11:28 am (UTC)
Ron Wood seems to expect to be patted on the back for his self-indulgent behaviour. It annoys me.

And it's not just inequality between male and female. If Ron had been a poor, black man he'd probably have spent most of his life behind bars.
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[User Picture]From: jubal51394
2007-10-09 12:34 pm (UTC)

IMHO...

Equality of censure requires equality of stature.
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2007-10-09 01:47 pm (UTC)

Re: IMHO...

You've got a point.

I'm prepared to cut a person more slack if if he/she's an important artist. For instance I'm prepared to forgive John Lennon things that I find tacky in Ron Wood- because Lennon was a genius and Wood is just a geezer who knows a few guitar chords.
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From: senordildo
2007-10-09 02:54 pm (UTC)

Re: IMHO...

Wood's a pretty good guitarist, and he did some excellent work with the Faces. Part of the public's fascination with Spears stems from the fact that in contrast with the aggressive, egocentric behavior typically expected of rock stars (including female ones like Janis Joplin), her behavior seems like that of someone truly going to pieces in public, rather than simply living it up in the usual sex/drugs/rock'n'roll/violence manner. People get off on the idea of her helplessness, and they don't feel guilty about it because of her lack of real achievement. Having acquiesced in making her a star, the public turns upon her in revenge for its own lack of taste.
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2007-10-09 09:53 pm (UTC)

Re: IMHO...

One of these days the media pursuit of a hapless celeb is going to end with someone getting seriously hurt. I don't think the paparazzi killed Di, but it wasn't for want of trying.
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[User Picture]From: halfmoon_mollie
2007-10-09 12:54 pm (UTC)
Yes...because he's a man (and an impossibly rich one at that) people shake their heads and say "This is what rockers do."

How many people, I wonder, have heard the story of the Eric Clapton/Patti Boyd Harrison/George Harrison triangle and felt sorry for the two men but thought Patti was a pig for having an affair with and later marrying Eric? And now, of course, they will think less of her because of this little revelation.

The gun play stuff? That sounds like retarded adolescence. Guy stuff.

Yes, indeed, equality of censure does require equality of stature. (to say nothing of talent, which seems to have little to do with this whole thing.)
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2007-10-09 01:54 pm (UTC)
The more I learn about Harrison the less I like him- which is a shame because I love the music.

Keith Richards has/had a thing about weapons and was prone to drug-fuelled rages. Not really the cool, laid back dude the legend says he is.

I read an interviw with Patti Boyd the other day. I forget exactly what she's doing these days, but it seems she's a survivor.
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[User Picture]From: internet_sampo
2007-10-09 01:16 pm (UTC)

George

It's starting to seem that the cool Beatle was ... (gulp) Ringo
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2007-10-09 01:59 pm (UTC)

Re: George

I like Ringo's laid-back attitude to things. He seems to have remarkably little ego.

"Are you a mod or a rocker?"

"Neither. I'm a mocker."
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[User Picture]From: veronica_milvus
2007-10-09 05:03 pm (UTC)

Re: George

Lennon said that Ringo wasn't the best drummer in the world - or even the best drummer in the Beatles...
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2007-10-09 10:01 pm (UTC)

Re: George

Poor old Ringo.

But he doesn't seem to be the resentful, does he?

I know he's had his troubles but, from what little we know of him, he seems like a decent and likeable man.
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[User Picture]From: veronica_milvus
2007-10-09 05:08 pm (UTC)
It seems that we forgive all sorts of bad and strange behaviour in those we consider geniuses. Eric Gill, Dylan Thomas, Jimi Hendrix, Salvador Dali... t
There is a theory that bipolar disorder is very much linked to artistic creativity and that's why so many very bright and creative people are at best flamboyant and at worst self-destructive. Booze and drugs and general risk taking are attempts to self-medicate the depressive periods. However, britney is just a manipulated little girl who had been given everything she wanted, and is not smart enough to figure out that not everything she wanted is good for her. Kids like that need protection.
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2007-10-09 09:57 pm (UTC)
"Kids like that need protection".

Yes.

And it's a old, old story. Being a child star is a bit like playing Russian roulette. Some of them come through, but a lot don't make it- or at least not with their sanity intact.
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[User Picture]From: veronica_milvus
2007-10-10 12:23 am (UTC)
ah. The dangers of being beautiful. It could have been me but thankfully I was also too smart to become a teen icon.
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2007-10-10 09:24 am (UTC)

Re: IMHO...

It sounds like you've got an interesting story to tell....
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From: algabal
2007-10-10 05:30 am (UTC)

Re: IMHO...

It's truly bizarre that a man who loves women is a "womanizer" and a woman who loves men is a "slut."
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2007-10-10 09:27 am (UTC)

Re: IMHO...

Womanizer is an ugly word. It sounds like something mechanical- like a kitchen utensil.
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