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Fandom [Aug. 4th, 2007|12:12 pm]
Tony Grist
Fandom- I don't get it.

Why would you want to mess with someone else's characters when you can create your own?

Does J.K. Rowling take pleasure in badly written stories about her characters having sex?  I doubt it.  Why- If you admire and enjoy her work - would you want to disrespect her so? 

Isn't "fan" a bit of a misnomer?

But lets move from the general to the specific. An artist just got banned by LJ because of an image she posted of Harry and Snape.

Only the banning seems ineffective because she's bounced back and the image is viewable. (I'm not giving links. I don't want to give her any more publicity than she's getting already).

I clicked. I was expecting an image of them kissing. Boy, was I in for a surprise.

The characters were clearly modelled on Daniel Radcliffe and Alan Rickman. Isn't this defamation of character or libel of something?

Even more to the point:  British comedian Chris Langham is about to go to prison for downloading images which (I assume ) are comparable to this. 

So- forget morality- LJ needs to guard itself against prosecution.

But I don't want to forget morality. You take characters from a beloved children's book and you produce an image of them that any paedophile would be proud to own (you can quibble over whether Harry looks underage or not if you want to be legalistic and miss the point) and  I can't think of any grounds on which I'd be prepared  to defend you.

A lot of fans are up in arms and banging on about censorship.  I just watched a video of a girl give a little self-righteous speech then attempt to burn her LJ shirt with a blow torch .  Fine. Off you trot to some less scrupulous site and good luck to you!  As it happens, I'm perfectly happy to see you go.

[User Picture]From: elfwreck
2007-08-04 11:15 pm (UTC)

Re: SAY SO. Tell us this is not a fandom-friendly site, and we'll migrate.

Part of what fanfic and fanart do is to keep the fantasies in the realm of complete fiction... where a pedophile who reads "Fanny Hill" (public domain) could go out and molest a child, he certainly can't polyjuice-potion himself to earn the trust of of an underage wizard to seduce him. He can't cast a Confundus spell to confuse him. He can't beam himself onboard the Enterprise and arrange a transporter accident that de-ages Kirk to 8, and she can't use her Jedi Mind Powers to get a harem.

Pedophilic pornographic images are ugly...
1) Your judgment call.
2) The pics in question were not pedophilic, in that they had no connection to prepubescent ANYTHING. They were NOT inspirational to people who are attracted to prepubescents.

Attractive to people who like under-18s? Possibly. But that's not pedophilia... I was sexually active before I was 18, as were plenty of other people, and nobody accused me of pedophilia for it.


I wish someone would say this to the fanatic anti-gay communities. Or the ones who claim blacks aren't human. Or the pro-ana communties that tell teenage girls they can live on 400 calories a day.

However... we're going. It'll take us a while; we're looking for a place with both the website options we need, and a lack of people who think that their personal squicks are somehow moral law that everyone should follow. (And yes, we've considered that such a place might not exist, and we might have to build it.)
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From: manfalling
2007-08-05 03:24 pm (UTC)

Re: SAY SO. Tell us this is not a fandom-friendly site, and we'll migrate.

I haven't seen the images- but all this talk of raping or torturing or whatever Harry Potter is making me sick.

Because he's not a real person it's ok? That's kind of stupid. That's totally stupid. It's an image of an obscene and deplorable act, it doesn't matter if it's real or not.

If you have fantasies like that, and encourage them within yourself, and want to share them with others, then I'd say you're pretty sick.
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