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Fandom [Aug. 4th, 2007|12:12 pm]
Tony Grist
Fandom- I don't get it.

Why would you want to mess with someone else's characters when you can create your own?

Does J.K. Rowling take pleasure in badly written stories about her characters having sex?  I doubt it.  Why- If you admire and enjoy her work - would you want to disrespect her so? 

Isn't "fan" a bit of a misnomer?

But lets move from the general to the specific. An artist just got banned by LJ because of an image she posted of Harry and Snape.

Only the banning seems ineffective because she's bounced back and the image is viewable. (I'm not giving links. I don't want to give her any more publicity than she's getting already).

I clicked. I was expecting an image of them kissing. Boy, was I in for a surprise.

The characters were clearly modelled on Daniel Radcliffe and Alan Rickman. Isn't this defamation of character or libel of something?

Even more to the point:  British comedian Chris Langham is about to go to prison for downloading images which (I assume ) are comparable to this. 

So- forget morality- LJ needs to guard itself against prosecution.

But I don't want to forget morality. You take characters from a beloved children's book and you produce an image of them that any paedophile would be proud to own (you can quibble over whether Harry looks underage or not if you want to be legalistic and miss the point) and  I can't think of any grounds on which I'd be prepared  to defend you.

A lot of fans are up in arms and banging on about censorship.  I just watched a video of a girl give a little self-righteous speech then attempt to burn her LJ shirt with a blow torch .  Fine. Off you trot to some less scrupulous site and good luck to you!  As it happens, I'm perfectly happy to see you go.

[User Picture]From: momof2girls
2007-08-04 01:24 pm (UTC)
I must have missed the hoo-hah, but I agree with your point. Why use someone else's carefully crafted characters to satisfy your own prurient sexual urges? Not to mention, J.K. Rowling has copyright over these characters, and could easily sue.

It would be one thing to create respectful, well-thought-out stories to continue a series you enjoy and admire for your own enjoyment, but when you use the characters for publicity and then do a flounce, you lose all credibility.

Go to some other, less scrupulous site, indeed!
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2007-08-04 03:04 pm (UTC)
Yes. It's parasitical, tasteless and crass.

I'd mind less (though I'd still mind a bit) if these weren't children's books.
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[User Picture]From: apapazukamori
2007-08-08 07:03 pm (UTC)
Here via metafandom.

J.K. Rowling has copyright over these characters, and could easily sue.

Except Ms. Rowling has given her blessing to fanfic writers and fanartists. On her personal website, She has featured (and linked to) a site which promotes fanfic/fanart devoted to pairing off Remus Lupin and Sirius Black. She has admitted that Snape/Harry baffles her, but it's more because she can't quite understand why people like Snape so much. As far as explicit content goes, she is all right with it, so long as people don't post it where children can easily get to it.

Now, I have no idea where the picture in question was posted, but I felt the need to point out that not all authors are anti-fanfic/fanart. Some love both, some like one and not the other (Lynn Flewelling, for example, loves fanart but does not permit fanfiction), and some abhor both. I wholeheartedly agree that those authors who don't permit fanart/fanfic should have their wishes respected. But if an author turns a blind eye to it, has openly said he or she permits it, or the work resides in the Public Domain, then I believe the fans aren't doing anything wrong. After all, some of literature's great works are derivatives of other works. My Fair Lady is a derivative of Shaw's Pygmalion, which is itself a retelling of a Greek myth. West Side Story is a derivative of Romeo and Juliet which is a derivative of Pyramus and Thisbe.

Fanfic and fanart take derivative to a different level, but I'm not sure it's as harmful as people make it out to be. The majority of fanfic writers and fan artists love the work and want to be a part of the world that was created. Many do write their own, original pieces or draw their own art in addition to their fan-related work. As in any group, there are those who take their love of the work to the extreme. And I'd assure you that most fans don't particularly like them either.
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