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It Burns [Apr. 13th, 2006|09:49 am]
Tony Grist
Religion is corrosive stuff.

This is the time of year when the Jews bang on about the seven plagues of Egypt and Christians bang on about a God who was crucified.

Violence, smiting, dead babies, torture, betrayal, death, vengeance; our lot against your lot.

We got saved and you didn't.

Like the tipping over of a barrel full of toxic waste.

Acid reflux.
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From: bodhibird
2006-04-13 05:57 am (UTC)
I concur, brother. I concur. :\

*thinks of four liturgies to sing in the next four days, and sighs*
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2006-04-13 06:17 am (UTC)
We had a college chaplain once who put a positive spin on it by saying that religion forces us to face up to the parts of ourselves we like least and is therefore cathartic and therapeutic. He had taken as his text that verse from the Psalms about breaking children's heads against the stones.
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[User Picture]From: solar_diablo
2006-04-13 06:25 am (UTC)
Along a similar line, I recently read a work by a Christian apologist who responded to the question as to why God demanded a blood sacrifice as part of his plan for redeeming humanity. His answer was that God didn't; humanity did. Sad to say, it makes a certain amount of sense to me. Violence and barbarism existed long before the Abrahamic faiths arrived on the scene, and they'll exist long after they're gone. Humans are hardwired for violence; religion simply provides a handy outlet/justification.

Wow, I'm depressing before my morning caffeine.
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2006-04-13 06:52 am (UTC)
It's my opinion, of course, that God too is a human invention.

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[User Picture]From: red_girl_42
2006-04-13 11:24 am (UTC)
Humans are hardwired for violence, and God created us, supposedly in his image.
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From: bodhibird
2006-04-13 06:39 am (UTC)
That psalm is referenced twice in the rule of St. Benedict. He interprets it as meaning that we should destroy our impulses to sin while they are still only incipient, and not allow them to grow into actual sins--to dash them against "the rock that is Christ".

That doesn't change the fact that the psalmist who wrote those words meant them *literally*, and wanted to see little Babylonian kids smashed to death.
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2006-04-13 06:55 am (UTC)
St Benedict was being evasive.

But I guess he was being evasive in the service of civilised and humane values.
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From: bodhibird
2006-04-13 07:23 am (UTC)
Yes, I remain rather fond of St. Benedict. He *was* a very humane and compassionate person; you can see that in the Rule.
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[User Picture]From: intotheraw
2006-04-13 06:37 am (UTC)
Yes.
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[User Picture]From: sina_says
2006-04-13 08:28 am (UTC)
i agree. thought this might give you a giggle, though.
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2006-04-13 01:17 pm (UTC)
That's terrific!
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[User Picture]From: red_girl_42
2006-04-13 11:26 am (UTC)
Hey, if smiting and betrayal is what it takes to get honey ham, deviled eggs, jelly beans and chocolate bunnies, then BRING ON THE SMITING!
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2006-04-13 01:19 pm (UTC)
I'll take the devilled eggs, but I couldn't eat all that sweet stuff...
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[User Picture]From: red_girl_42
2006-04-13 02:10 pm (UTC)
Okay, I'll trade you some deviled eggs for a couple of the Cadbury Creme variety ;-)
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[User Picture]From: four_thorns
2006-04-13 10:02 pm (UTC)
you know, i was not feeling so bad about missing out on my family's easter whatnot back in boston, but then you had remind me about the ham!

oh well. my family doesn't make deviled eggs, so i guess i'm not missing that much...
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[User Picture]From: seaslug_of_doom
2006-04-13 12:01 pm (UTC)
And a Happy Zombie Jesus Day to you this weekend as well.

:)
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2006-04-13 01:20 pm (UTC)
Maybe I'll celebrate by watching Dawn of the Dead.
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[User Picture]From: dadi
2006-04-13 11:47 pm (UTC)
Really, the only good thing of all that is the lot of precious music that is being sung everywhere ...
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2006-04-14 02:27 am (UTC)
The BBC is transmitting something they're calling The Manchester Passion- a straight version of the story set on the streets of Manchester, with the characters singing well known pop songs, with the words adapted.

I won't be watching it.
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