Actually, I think it would be pretty neat to depict it like that in film, as if they occupy their own time. With a battle raging in slow motion around them as they fight at "normal speed" and then in reverse when the focus is on the main battle.
Yes. that would be interesting. More interesting- by all accounts- than anything in the Troy film.
This comparison can also be made with Milton, who exists out of time and space as icons and ideals versus Shakespeare, with his vivid and fluid characters.
Even so, when Hotspur and Prince Hal fight it out at the Battle of Shrewsbury it's exactly like a Homeric duel.
Which still doesn't mean you can have your very own Satan's Cheerleader for Christmas.
Not even a very little one?
no the little ones are the most venomous. You are, however, welcome to take your pick out of any of my burlesque troupe once we get off the ground (The Killer Tomatoes)
Perhaps you could post a picture so I can choose.
no, that would put you in the awkward and unreccomendable position of accidentally selecting someone who wasn't me. Plus, we don't have photos (or enough girls) yet.
I think I attempt to mimic the Homeric battle style in my life. How delightfully absurd a notion, but so... appropriate.
Yes indeed. Why should we submit ourselves to the tyranny of clocks?
Beauty has ritual time, too.
Homer takes time to have someone stop and admire and spell out the lineage of staffs and helmets and trees quite often.
So does heritage--two guys at some point meet in battle and realize that they're cousins, so instead of fighting to the death they drop down and have tea in the middle of a battle. No, really.
Is it just an artistic convention or did Homer (and his contemporaries) actually experience time differently?
I think it's probably a little of both. It's definitely a Homeric device, but at the same time, we think such things are useless and not worthy of line space, whereas the Greeks thought they were massively important and as deserving of wordage as battles.
Greeks did conceive of time differently--that's a long conversation--but The Iliad is indeed a story involving gods and the hero battles are usually presided over and protected by gods, hence the ritual space.
The Troy film expunges the gods. It seems to me that this was a mistake (and a betrayal.) I can see why they chickened out, but what a fascinating artistic challenge!
No kidding. I knew it was going to be...icky when I heard that.