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Keaton And Chaplin [Aug. 21st, 2005|11:01 am]
Tony Grist
Keaton is Pierrot to Chaplin's Harlequin.

Keaton is beautiful. Keaton is one of the most beautiful men who ever lived.

Both these guys started out as tumblers and discovered somewhere along the line that they were artists.

Keaton's camerawork is lovely. Chaplin could never be bothered with that sort of thing.

Chaplin lived in a larger world. His films are braver. Keaton never went beyond pushing the fat capitalist in the river (then fishing him out again.) There's nothing in the Keaton oeuvre as transgressive as The Great Dictator or M. Verdoux.

Keaton did a deal with the suits (perhaps he had to) and they screwed him; Chaplin never did and they tried to screw him and failed.

Keaton is a huge talent. Chaplin is a genius.

Sam Beckett made an insufferably pretentious film with Keaton. Its insufferably pretentious title is "Film". All the way through he insists on photographing Keaton from the back. One of the greatest faces in film history and you make a point of not showing it- words fail me!

Keaton eclipses Chaplin in their scene together in Limelight and Chaplin allows it to happen. I love it.

[User Picture]From: cdpoint
2005-08-22 02:38 am (UTC)
I see Keaton and Chaplin as quite different artists. Keaton is all about form, which is why some of his scenes can astonish even today's special-effects jaded kids. That waterfall scene in Our Hospitality, for example.

Chaplin is all about heart, which is why he can seem cloying in comparison to Keaton. For Chaplin, the comedy is a means to an end--getting the girl or beating the bad guy. For Keaton, the comedy is the end. The people provide the impetus, but you rarely think much of any Keaton character after the film is over.

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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2005-08-22 05:06 am (UTC)
That's a shrewd observation.

Keaton is amazing, but he doesn't engage our emotions- that's exactly right. And that's why I think Chaplin is the greater artist

But I wouldn't want to without either of them.
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