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Trottiscliffe And Thereabouts [Jan. 12th, 2019|09:09 am]
Tony Grist
We had lunch (treated by my sister and bro-in-law)-in Luddesdown- pronounced Ludsdon- which is near Trottiscliffe- pronounced Trosley. As we drove through Trottiscliffe on our way home the sun dipped below the overcast- and in the five minutes before it sank behind the cloudbank on the horizon I took some photographs.



This is the tower of Ss Peter and Paul, Trottiscliffe. Peter and Paul is a very common dedication in Kent. I don't know why. Perhaps (and this is just a guess) the prominence of these two very Roman saints has something to do with St Augustine- who evangelised Kent in the 6th century- wanting to impress his converts with the primacy of the Roman See- which was sponsoring him.

Macey who lives in the area says Trottiscliffe is properly pronounced the way it's spelled and it's only the locals who call it Trosley, but I reckon authority rests with the people who live in a place- and if they decide its official name has a syllable too many we should defer to them. Trottiscliffe also seems to be known as Coldrum (with the names being more or less interchangeable). This is a historied place, lying in the foothills of the North Downs- with the Pilgrim's Way running along the ridge above the village. Greater London is only a hop, skip and jump away but you'd never guess. The whole area feels shut away, secret- with megaliths and abandoned medieval villages- and roads designed to take nothing wider or faster than a hay cart.
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[User Picture]From: puddleshark
2019-01-12 11:50 am (UTC)
Trosley/Trottiscliffe seems to be one of those villages where they have come with a secret pronunciation especially to bewilder outsiders...

So many of the churches in Dorset are dedicated to St Mary that I was quite surprised to come across a St Paul and a St Nicholas this week.

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[User Picture]From: halfmoon_mollie
2019-01-12 01:04 pm (UTC)
when I went to PEI, my friend kept telling me we were going to Surrey to catch the ferry to Cape Breton. I couldn't find Surrey on the map - because it's spelled 'Souris'.
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2019-01-12 03:57 pm (UTC)
Well I suppose that's what Surrey sounds like when spoken with a French accent
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2019-01-12 04:02 pm (UTC)
There a lot of St Marys round here as well.

I like the rare dedications. For example the dedication to St Mildred in Tenterden
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[User Picture]From: pondhopper
2019-01-12 03:11 pm (UTC)

The light on the tower is lovely.


When we're in England we have fun learning how place  names are pronounced. So many sound nothing like their spelling. I find that very amusing and intriguing.

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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2019-01-12 03:57 pm (UTC)
It was a race to get to the church before the light disappeared.
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