I think a large part of the problem has been the quality of the writing. We've just not been getting good stories or engaging characters.
I'm a big fan of DS9. It took the franchise into new waters and introduced a whole collection of fascinating characters (played by a company of very strong actors.) Sadly the producers lost their nerve towards the end of the run and dumbed it down.
Voyager was patchy.
I hope there will be a new show eventually. And I hope it will reinvent the franchise. The new Dr Who demonstrates how this is possible.
I agree about DS9. I never saw any of it until last year when I had a housemate with pay-TV, so I so bits and pieces of it - and all of what I saw was pretty amazing.
And I agree about Voyager. Voyager annoyed me because it was faced with two possibilities and didn't have the nerve to follow either through. It could have used its setting on the other side of the galaxy to leave the old Star Trek world behind and really tackle new, big ideas, and that would have been great. Or it could have just been flat-out Horatio Hornblower in space, and that could have been very fun. But it ummed and aahed and gazed at its toes and hedged its bets for seven seasons.
I hope Star Trek comes back too. I hope it comes back with more verve, and more political sass, and more willingness to deal with its (unavoidable) political allegories.
I also think that if Berman and Braga go have a long, long think the Star Trek universe (if not the commercial franchise) will change into something completely different while they're gone. I think in a way the Star Trek fandom is more important in its legacy than the TV show itself.
Voyager was compromised from the start. It was an attempt to return to an old, tried formula after the experiment of DS9. I read an interview with the guy who played Chakotay in which he said the scripts were rubbish and he could barely say his lines without giggling and basically he was only in it for the money. He implied that most of the cast and crew felt the same. I doubt if the atmosphere was like that on the set of TNG. Somewhere along the way there had been a massive loss of heart.
I think you're right about the legacy. The Star Trek ethos- embodied in characters like Kirk and Spock and Picard- transcends the TV shows.
They all started out well, I think. I even have the first episode of V'ger. Enterprise COULD have been wonderful, it was an attempt to go back to 'before the beginning'. But Gene Rodennberry is dead...
I always thought it was a bit daft to attempt a prequel to original Trek.
For one thing we all know how the story is going to pan out.
And for another you're limiting yourself. You can't introduce any races- like the Borg- who weren't around in Kirk's day.
And then, finally, there's the problem of coming up with a style that convincingly predates the very 60s look of the original show.
I wanted Enterprise to succeeed, I watched the first three or four episodes, but the characters were so dull, the stories so weak and the writing so flavourless that I packed it in.
I am a BIG fan of Scott Bakula, and I wanted the show to be a success for HIS sake. I was getting sick of watching reruns of Quantum Leap...
Bakula is OK. Given a better set of scripts he would have made a fine captain. I've nothing against him personally.
2005-08-03 09:32 am (UTC)
Yeah DS9 was easily the best to my mind. Voyage began well until Brannon Braga fell for Seven of Nine (who wasn't very interesting anyway).
Seven of Nine was fun to begin with, but then she became predictable.
My favourite Voyager episodes were the ones where Janeway palled around with Leonardo da Vinci. I found the master-pupil relationship (with the pupil knowing so much more than the master) rather touching.
I had two favorites. One was Mr. Tweelix, where they mixed up Tuvoc and Neelix in the transporter - and then after everyone got used to the 'new' person, they fixed the transporter and had to 'unscramble' them
And the one where Seven of Nine rescued the former Borg and he died at the end. That one made me cry...
Yes, the Tweelix episode was memorable.
It's a pity about the unscrambling. Neelix was so so irritating
2005-08-03 09:34 am (UTC)
I think they need at least a five year gap though to get over the fatigue.
Five years is good by me.
Just so long as the show they finally come up with has a bit of zip.