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The Sunny Side Of The Street [Apr. 12th, 2018|09:34 am]
Tony Grist
Donald Trump isn't so very different from other US presidents, it's just that he doesn't pretend to be high-minded.  If Hillary had been president she'd almost certainly have been threatening to blitz Syria too- only she wouldn't have used the language of the playground. 

Trump has stripped his office of its dignity. Since the dignity was never much more than lipstick and blusher this may not be such a bad thing.  With Trump we're seeing the exercise of imperial power in all its intrinsic ugliness.  

Yes I know....but I'm determined to find  something positive to take away from this present lamentable state of affairs.
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[User Picture]From: matrixmann
2018-04-12 01:25 pm (UTC)
Is what makes me wonder about why all make such a fuzz of his openly acting out of non-education.
All the other people only had a better PR campaign in media to sell it and they would be a little less impulsive, more well-behaved.
Even Obama, although well-praised, was only a warlord in foreign politics.
Not to forget his phrase about "red lines" and such (that also was about Syria).
Trump's like the plebs among the millionaires, but that's about it, that's his only sin. The others - their mindset often is not very different.
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2018-04-12 02:04 pm (UTC)
Yes, exactly. US foreign policy stays the same no matter who is nominally in charge.
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[User Picture]From: halfmoon_mollie
2018-04-12 02:44 pm (UTC)
Here's the good news for the day. Paul Ryan says he's stepping down end of the year.
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2018-04-12 05:02 pm (UTC)
But why?

There's speculation he may be planning to run for President.
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[User Picture]From: halfmoon_mollie
2018-04-12 05:07 pm (UTC)
He tried that before, and it didn't work. No one trusts him...and you know, I realize that I am kind of prejudiced about my country. There are a lot of things we do that are wrong. But I don't particularly care for the information that foreign policy is the same no matter who the president. I sat on some porch steps in PEI, years ago, when W was president and cringed when I heard what the gentlemen were saying...well, all I am saying is I didn't especially care for the tone of all this. You've made it clear you don't agree with Theresa May. Well, I don't agree with the man in the White House now. And PS, I voted for Ms.Clinton, but that doesn't change the fact that she is an elitist and probably doesn't understand the common people, or the middle class, any better than our current president.

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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2018-04-12 06:05 pm (UTC)
Obama came into office saying he'd close Gitmo. A decade later Gitmo is still in business. That's a measure of the power of the President. The powers that be allow him to make speeches and press buttons but expect him to do as they strongly advise. Kennedy remains as an example of what can happen if the figurehead gets ideas above its station.

Trump just exceeded his authority by threatening a strike against Syria and has clearly been advised to cool it.


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[User Picture]From: halfmoon_mollie
2018-04-12 10:00 pm (UTC)
I know you're right. I was disappointed that President Obama could not get the backing to close Gitmo, but you know a good share of Congress was not only Republican but Racist. That makes me ashamed. And of course you are right about Kennedy. But it just sort of got my back up....
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2018-04-13 08:35 am (UTC)
Fair enough.

It's normal to want to defend one's country's reputation.
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[User Picture]From: oakmouse
2018-04-13 12:29 am (UTC)
The dignity of the office of the President was pretty well shot to hell a century ago. (Look up Grover Cleveland's antics some time.) Trump's the latest installment in a long tradition. It's just that now we've got Twittter and Facebook and 24/7/365 news to focus a microscope on his follies.
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2018-04-13 08:32 am (UTC)
As you say people in public office suffer much greater exposure these days. For example, Kennedy's private life was extremely colourful- but few people knew about it at the time.
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[User Picture]From: oakmouse
2018-04-13 10:14 pm (UTC)
Kennedy was one of the ones who would have demeaned the Presidency if half of his shenanigans had become public knowledge during his lifetime.
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