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George Dubya Who? [Sep. 1st, 2017|11:58 am]
Tony Grist
Ailz tells me that Trump supporters are saying their man is doing a better job vis a vis the Texas floods than Obama did with the floods in New Orleans.

And, yes, Trump does seem to be doing a good job (for a change). What is required in the wake of natural disaster is visible leadership, big gestures- all that kind of thing- and Trump, as a TV reality star- is good at taking up a lot of space.

But the thing his supporters have forgotten is that Katrina didn't happen on Obama's watch but George W Bush's. It was Bush who gave such a very good impression of a man floundering out of his depth- while the woman they identify as Michele Obama who was pictured out shopping three days after Katrina hit is actually Condi Rice.

It's odd. But they're not the only ones who seem to have forgotten George. The drama swirling around the Obama and Trump presidencies has cast a shadow backwards and eclipsed him. His name is rarely mentioned by either one-time supporters or one-time enemies. It's almost as if his two terms never happened- which is odd when you think how eventful his era was and how the wars he gifted the world with are still going on. At the time most of us had little doubt that he was the worst president of modern times, but that was then...

[User Picture]From: lblanchard
2017-09-01 05:23 pm (UTC)
I think that part of the reason we/they forget Bush is that, unlike Obama, he removed himself from the scene entirely and let his successor get on with his presidency. Obama, on the other hand, has been very much in the limelight, making public statements and generally being a thorn in Trump's side.

Another thing that everyone forgets about Katrina -- it looked to everyone as if New Orleans had pretty much dodged the bullet. Then the dam burst, and by then it was too late for anyone to get out. There was no way out. New Orleans is a bowl below sea level.
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2017-09-01 06:02 pm (UTC)
I rather admire Bush's decision to remove himself from the lime light. Who'd have guessed he had so little ego.
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[User Picture]From: matrixmann
2017-09-01 07:50 pm (UTC)
This is what surprises me - even as an outsider - too.
G.W.Bush? Totally forgotten. And that even though there was so much satire culture about him and so much protest culture against the wars that had been begun under his reign.
Yes, even... even when it comes down to Syria, part of the American populace that you can easily make believe in the shit the government does - even if it's lead by a person of color (Obama) or their foreign secretary is a woman (Mrs. Clinton) -, when only somebody from their desired clientele is in the highest position, then even Colin Powell and his "weapons of mass destruction" are fogotten and how much it was a lie right from the start. (If he can lie, can't other people lie too in that position?)
And how many did despise that government for the crimes and the lies it committed...
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2017-09-02 08:20 am (UTC)
And he's only been gone ten years....
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[User Picture]From: matrixmann
2017-09-02 09:02 am (UTC)
Yeah... It's not like needing to "remind" anyone of gangsters like Nixon or so - to people who are born far after his reign. This is like still pretty recent shit. And still the same kind of spin doctor tricks do their function like a clockwork...
Makes you want to voice out loudly: "Mankind, I expected you to be smarter!", but some weird mind surely would also find a way to present that as hatespech and get you a penality for that.
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2017-09-02 09:53 am (UTC)
Nixon I think is better remembered. Or- at least- the Watergate scandal is. That might have something to do with Nixon being such a strong character- and such a consummate politician. Dubya on the other hand was neither of these things.
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[User Picture]From: matrixmann
2017-09-02 10:22 am (UTC)
Might be. But anything the common people remember except for the Watergate scandal? I don't feel like it is so.
Only I know that the gold standard was abandoned in his reign too. For the simple reason the US couldn't acquire any more gold to back up the Dollar currency as it should be done according to the regulations. So they abandoned this and unfolded the base for the endless generation of book money that is still common today...
I know that because I'm attentive to all kinds of sides. But how many people in the general populace remember that? If you think about the consequences of the decision, the Watergate scandal actually was the like the lesser evil... And I could think, abandoning the gold standard was just normal "business of a president" back then.
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