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Bilocating [Apr. 23rd, 2017|12:24 pm]
Tony Grist
People keep quitting LJ. It's a regular drip drip drip. Some are now on DW and some have withdrawn to FB (whither I refuse to follow them).  I have chosen- as have many others- to bilocate. DW feels safer and cosier- with its cottage industry ethos- but LJ is still where (what's left of) the action is- and where I still have most of my conversations.

DW is a little bit clunky. Where LJ automatically resizes images to fit the format DW expects you to do it for yourself. I spent a good while yesterday trying to figure out how to stop my pictures swamping and over-lapping their frame. The upside is I've learned a new skill...
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[User Picture]From: davesmusictank
2017-04-23 11:58 am (UTC)
I must admit ... i really do prefer LJ to DW which like you said is very clunky IMHO. I do post on DW but so far only book reviews in general.
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2017-04-23 01:59 pm (UTC)
I base myself at DW and crosspost everything.
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[User Picture]From: pondhopper
2017-04-23 01:50 pm (UTC)
And then there are those of us who back up there at regular intervals but continue to post here directly. DW is not my cup of tea until it becomes the only tea in town.
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2017-04-23 02:04 pm (UTC)
I don't see anything to dislike about DW- apart from the comparative clunkiness.
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[User Picture]From: kishenehn
2017-04-23 02:27 pm (UTC)
Sorry to hear that. The ethics of the DW people are far too appalling for me to support, and I am disappointed even in people who are importing my old conversations over there.
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[User Picture]From: heleninwales
2017-04-23 03:31 pm (UTC)
One of the reasons I wouldn't import my journal over there and instead back it up offline is that all these people migrating to DW are giving it a spurious history. The didn't use DW for all these posts and conversations, they used LJ and it seems dishonest to pretend otherwise.

Anyway, I am here until they turn out the lights at LJ or everyone leaves, at which point I will start journalling offline and keep in touch with friends via Facebook. I don't really like Facebook, but the FB Fluffbusting Purity extension makes it bearable.
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[User Picture]From: kishenehn
2017-04-23 03:43 pm (UTC)
Exactly. It's dishonest ... and not really fair to the people who have made past comments on LJ and didn't expect their words to be re-broadcast beyond their control.

Anyhow, if you or anyone ever needs an alternate LJ backup solution, I've found a really nice one ... it saves all of your posts and comments as HTML files that you can look at locally, and gives you a page of interesting statistics, as well:

https://gregstoll.com/ljbackup/

It tells me, for example, that I've typed over 900,000 words in my LJ posts, not counting comments. I never would have guessed ...
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2017-04-23 03:46 pm (UTC)
Why, what have they done?
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[User Picture]From: kishenehn
2017-04-23 08:05 pm (UTC)
The much-shortened version of the story is that the site was coded by two laid-off LJ employees out for revenge against their former employer ... and then enabled by a small group of fanfic writers whose artwork featured fairly abhorrent child pornography, and were mad at LJ because they wouldn't allow it to be stored on their servers. Even before DW launched, that cabal began an anti-LJ vendetta that has continued almost unabated ever since, close to a decade now, spreading exaggerations and FUD and juvenile paranoia -- many of those folks have spent more time doing that than they have actually blogging at their supposed new home.

I would find it sad if someone didn't care about any of that ... but what's equally maddening to me are the results of it all. In their years of efforts to frighten naive people over to DW, their propaganda has caused far more people to just give up on long-form blogging entirely. They're doing more damage to it than anyone this side of Mark Zuckerberg, and that saddens me, because I value the medium. And it's why I see the copying of my words over there as a violation of trust.
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[User Picture]From: ideealisme
2017-04-23 08:50 pm (UTC)
Interesting. I had bad experiences on DW and always had a bad feeling about it, so deleted my journal there a while back. Glad to see someone else had similar.
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2017-04-24 08:20 am (UTC)
Oh dear.

I'm sorry you feel I've violated your trust. I had no idea of any of this.
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[User Picture]From: matrixmann
2017-04-23 05:36 pm (UTC)
This is indeed a disadavantage of dreamwidth - that you, like, have to do entries twice if you start doing anything else than just writing down text.
You always have to reshape it to fit with the corresponding platform and its norms and way of functioning. Because this is always extra work, and having to use both platforms for putting together entries becaue of their different set of funcions, I still quarrel with myself about opening the comment function over there 'cause then it really is like working on two platforms and this consumes double the time. Crossposting and then just importing the comments over there, this is not the biggest deal to do as it's only a few clicks and the rest gets done automatically without my needing to make efforts; I only need to concentrate on picking my stuff together for release and just one platform to answer comments on. This is okay to handle, and here or there you just say something to what other people put out which you stumble upon. Which doesn't need to happen that often if you don't have the time or mood.
But avoiding caring for your own stuff, this is something you shouldn't do and that you can't turn away from unless you want to experience surprises of the bad kind. So this demands you if you have it enabled.
And that's where I have the impression like it drains you - and that's what it shouldn't be like.
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2017-04-23 05:53 pm (UTC)
It's not ideal. I post a lot of pictures and it's a pain having to resize them.
I'd like to think we're in a transitional phase- and sooner or later things will sort themselves out. I don't suppose I'll want to carry on bilocating forever.
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[User Picture]From: matrixmann
2017-04-23 06:18 pm (UTC)
Well, this could be right anytime. That for at least I keep setting myself up with a backup also online, so that it's not much of a deal of practically going on with the show.
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[User Picture]From: strange_complex
2017-04-23 05:58 pm (UTC)
I encountered the exact same problem yesterday when writing a post with pictures in it for the first time on DW. I discovered that the solution is to put the pictures in LJ's image galleries, fire up an LJ entry box and pretend you are posting those images to LJ (taking advantage of their auto-resizing as you do), and then copy and paste the resulting code to DW and write the rest of the post around it. So my pictures now originate on LJ, appear in a post for the first time on DW, and are cross-posted right back to where they came from. Not perfect, but it'll do for now!
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2017-04-23 06:08 pm (UTC)
I might try that. What I've been doing is resizing the images in paintbox.
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[User Picture]From: idahoswede
2017-04-23 08:06 pm (UTC)
Well, I shall be here until such time as no one else is and once that happens, I will continue with my life, only not in print.
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2017-04-24 11:11 am (UTC)
There are more important things than blogging. Living, for example.
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[User Picture]From: veronica_milvus
2017-04-27 02:14 pm (UTC)
A propos of nothing except that your old email address is no longer working - do you remember the TV script we started talking about in 2010 - I'm planning to revive it.
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2017-04-27 05:38 pm (UTC)
I'd forgotten, but it's coming back now. Hazily.
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