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Nothing Doing... [Nov. 17th, 2016|12:36 pm]
Tony Grist
Meanwhile, here in Britain, government seems to be running on autopilot. When she first came in Theresa May was all about dissing David Cameron and George Osborne and smashing their legacy, but now she's carrying on where they left off, waving through their projects- HSR2, Hinkley Point etc- because, I suppose, she can't stand the pressure from the people who hope to profit from them.  As for Brexit, there's no plan and the ruling class is as fractured as it ever was. This is disappointing. On the other hand- bearing in mind the political drama unfolding elsewhere- it may not be such a bad thing.

[User Picture]From: internet_sampo
2016-11-17 02:42 pm (UTC)
The parallels between Brexit and our election of Trump are striking and becoming more numerous. In Britain, the cities voted to stay and the countryside voted to exit. In the US, the cities voted for Clinton and the countryside voted for Trump. Both votes were motivated by fear of immigrants. And now Trump brings in the head of the Republican party as his chief of staff, an indication that all will be (a Republican) normal.
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2016-11-17 03:33 pm (UTC)
I think Brexit and the Trump victory are all part of the same movement- a fairly drastic adjustment of political norms- at least in the Western world.
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[User Picture]From: davesmusictank
2016-11-17 04:05 pm (UTC)
And way too much going for a far right agenda methinks.
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2016-11-17 04:30 pm (UTC)
Yes, but...

...I think we need new political categories. Left and right worked well in the context of an industrial society, but less well in a post-industrial one.
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[User Picture]From: heleninwales
2016-11-18 05:41 pm (UTC)
It's actually more complex in the UK than an urban/rural divide. It's not rich/poor either. In fact it correlates best with level of education. Those with degrees voted Remain whilst those with little education voted Leave.

Many depressed urban areas voted Leave yet Gwynedd and Ceredigion, two of the poorest and most rural areas in the UK, voted Remain -- a fact I have just reminded our MP of in a recent letter urging her to speak on behalf of her constituency.

Being part of Europe is far more than just economics. There is so much academic and scientific collaboration at the moment that is in danger if we leave the EU.
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[User Picture]From: internet_sampo
2016-11-18 07:06 pm (UTC)
The same is true about our election:

"In the 2016 election, a wide gap in presidential preferences emerged between those with and without a college degree. College graduates backed Clinton by a 9-point margin (52%-43%), while those without a college degree backed Trump 52%-44%. This is by far the widest gap in support among college graduates and non-college graduates in exit polls dating back to 1980. "

And when you include race you see a much larger divide:

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