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Please... [Nov. 9th, 2016|05:02 pm]
Tony Grist
Please, fellow liberals, less of the illiberality.

Try to understand why people who aren't liberals have voted the way they did. No-one is without reasons. No-one has a monopoly on virtue.

And please stop accusing Trump voters of racism and misogyny. It may be true of some. But not all by any means. Don't demonise your opponent. It just deepens the division.

Understand that this election was between two of the least popular candidates ever. There were good reasons for not supporting Hillary. Very good reasons.  Many will have voted for Trump as the lesser of two evils.

And try to rein in the fear and hysteria. Fear is disabling. You're only hurting yourselves.

[User Picture]From: heleninwales
2016-11-09 05:52 pm (UTC)
I have some American friends who truly have reason to fear a Trump presidency due to all the hatred he has called up against them, simply for who they are. If anything Pence is more of a threat than Trump. However, I do agree that, just as with Brexit, people voted for a mixture of reasons. I believe they were misguided and that they won't get what they've been promised, but I really wish the Democrats had fielded a better candidate. :(
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2016-11-09 07:06 pm (UTC)
Trump said some very inflammatory things- mainly at the beginning of the campaign when I don't think even he believed he'd win. The closer he got to victory the more statesmanlike he became. His acceptance speech was generous and conciliatory. As for what happens next we'll have to see.
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[User Picture]From: topum
2016-11-09 07:51 pm (UTC)
He said very inflammatory things, yes. And the media decided not to take it seriously but take it literally. The problem was that many people did the opposite: they did not take what he said literally but took it seriously.
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2016-11-09 08:15 pm (UTC)
I think Trump's run at the presidency started out as a stunt. He expected to make a splash and get chucked out early. He said outrageous things thinking he'd never have to follow through on them.
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[User Picture]From: dorispossum
2016-11-09 07:19 pm (UTC)

Ironically the angry idiots who voted for Trump will probably suffer most when he tanks the economy - I doubt the rustbelt towns will survive the closing down of world trade.  It really is Brexit times a million (with guns!).  Here in UK, it's the run-down small towns who voted Brexit who suffer most from the slowdown and the loss of EU funding.  The 'metropolitan elite' in London that they voted to spite will do just fine - better educated, smarter and more adaptable, the metropolitans still have a lock on the wealth generating parts of the economy.  Likewise in USA: the skills of well-educated, smart liberals in New York and California will still be in demand.  But there won't be many jobs left in manufacturing if you can't sell abroad.  Possibly with government subsidies they might survive, but since Trump's about to destroy the tax base and plunge USA into a level of debt that makes the current trillions look like peanuts, there's little chance of that.  And without public money for schools,. their children can't go further.  Pitiful: but evolution in action.

Edited at 2016-11-09 07:30 pm (UTC)
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2016-11-09 08:17 pm (UTC)
If that happens he won't be the first "revolutionary" leader to give his followers false hope...
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