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Clouds Of Glory [Feb. 18th, 2016|12:10 pm]
Tony Grist
The best evocations of the world beyond are the briefest. Vaughan for instance-

I saw eternity the other night
Like a great ring of pure and endless light.

He goes on a bit after that but the power is in those first two lines. They have what I believe is called "onset"- the power of unqualified statement. No hesitation, no beating round the bush, no reaching after effect. Wordsworth hits the same transcendent note in The Intimations of Immortality Ode when he speaks of the human soul entering the world,

Not in utter nakedness
Nor in entire forgetfulness
But trailing clouds of glory..

And again he can't sustain it.

The problem with trying to say more, to describe a transcendent reality in detail, is that all we have to compare it with are the things of this world- and so you're always describing the things-that-are-more in terms of the things-that-are-less.  So writers about heaven- those who been there or claimed to have been there- in dreams, or as astral travellers, or through having died and come back to life (which- thanks to modern medicine- is a more frequent occurence now than it used to be )- are reduced to talking about wonderful landscapes and cities of gold and angelic personages- all of them much brighter and more colourful and beautiful than anything that exists down here- and it turns into Shelley- all sublime mountains and crystal fountains- and the superlatives become numbing and conventional and wearisome.  Unbelievable. Visions of Heaven in art are almost always disappointing. One artist who gets it right is Bosch. He has just the one image to match his hells- and it shows the ring of light that Vaughan describes. Better the glimpse, the hint of glory, than an attempt to convey the whole. Our minds and our senses just won't stretch that far.

Hell is easier. We have the language to describe Hell. Hell is like the everyday world, only worse. Worse is easier to describe than better. We can imagine worse, it's reality with knobs on- darker and grottier and more desperate and depressing. But a world that transcends the best we know on earth taxes language as it taxes the imagination. For instance people who have been there say Heaven has colours that simply don't exist on earth. How do you picture those? We just don't have the mental equipment.

I remember dreams that seem to have taken me to a place of heightened light and colour and mental awareness. I suspect I go there regularly- but the waking process wipes my mind and all I'm left with is fragments. In the one I recall most vividly I'm going down a country road on a bicycle feeling happy and at home. That's all there is to it. You have to take my word for it that the experience was more real than real- and completely convincing. If a dream presents us with a world that seems in all ways more concentrated than the so-called "real" world I don't think it unreasonable to suppose that the dream is the reality and the "real" world the shadow.

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From: cmcmck
2016-02-18 12:21 pm (UTC)
'Yron Bos! :o)
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2016-02-18 12:52 pm (UTC)
That what his mates called him?
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From: cmcmck
2016-02-18 02:39 pm (UTC)
It's what the Dutch call him!
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2016-02-18 04:04 pm (UTC)
So it's Bos not Bosh. I'll remember that.
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From: cmcmck
2016-02-18 05:07 pm (UTC)
Yeah, the town of s'Hertogenbosch that he takes his name from is pronounced ten boss.
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2016-02-18 05:20 pm (UTC)
That's a lot of letters for such a modest result.
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From: cmcmck
2016-02-19 09:17 am (UTC)
Woolfardisworthy or Trottiscliffe anyone? :o)
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2016-02-19 09:41 am (UTC)
I know how to pronounce Trottiscliffe but what about the other one?
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From: cmcmck
2016-02-19 04:17 pm (UTC)
Woolsery.............
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[User Picture]From: sovay
2016-02-18 08:11 pm (UTC)
One artist who gets it right is Bosch.

I love Bosch. His hells are so teeming and inventive, I love that his heaven is so simple and evocative. Not the rest of the painting, but that receding spiral of light looks like something from the twentieth century.
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2016-02-18 08:20 pm (UTC)
People who have had NDEs and OBEs often talk about going into a tunnel of light. Bosch seems to have known about that. Henry Vaughan too.
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[User Picture]From: splodgenoodles
2016-02-19 01:00 am (UTC)
This is good food for thought. Thankyou.
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[User Picture]From: chochiyo_sama
2016-02-19 01:18 am (UTC)
C.S. Lewis said we live in the Shadowlands here. "Heaven" is the reality that is merely reflected here.

When I think of Heaven, I don't think of golden streets or crowns studded with gems. I think of soft breezes, lots of fragrant, colorful flowers, frolicking animals, and an overwhelming feeling of peace, contentment, and good will.
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2016-02-19 09:40 am (UTC)
Yes, I think Lewis was broadly right.

I believe the world we enter immediately after death is a mental world- which means our own mind and wishes shape it- and so to a very large extent we find what we expect or hope to find.
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[User Picture]From: ideealisme
2016-02-20 09:51 pm (UTC)
Life is a mystery
Everyone must stand alone
I hear you call my name
And it feels like home.

- I think Madonna nailed it.

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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2016-02-21 10:11 am (UTC)
I like that song.
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