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Early Morning Conversation Over The Newspaper [Jan. 19th, 2016|09:36 am]
Tony Grist
1. "Don McLean..."

2. "He's died?"

1. "No, much worse: he's been arrested for domestic violence."

2. "Yes, that is worse."
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[User Picture]From: sorenr
2016-01-19 10:32 am (UTC)
That taints his music, sadly. (And I really love his music, but I don't really love abusers.)

I do hope I can separate the oeuvre from the artist, though. I'd be sad to have to cut his music out of my musical backdrop.
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2016-01-19 01:35 pm (UTC)
I feel much the same way. I can look with indulgence on some misdemeanours- but domestic violence isn't one of them.
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[User Picture]From: sorenr
2016-01-19 02:16 pm (UTC)
Actually - and I suspect you might agree with me on this one - I dislike any kind of violence, domestic or not.

He has eliminated himself from the "icon" league. His music is great, but he, sadly, seems not to be so great.
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2016-01-19 04:14 pm (UTC)
I dislike violence too, but domestic violence- which generally means the stronger partner bullying the weaker- is particularly nasty.
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From: cmcmck
2016-01-19 04:53 pm (UTC)
Prince Gesualdo da Venosa was a double murderer, but I still listen to his compositions many of which were written while he was trying to atone for his crimes.
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2016-01-19 06:01 pm (UTC)
Caravaggio was a killer too- and a thoroughly unstable nut-job- but also one of the greatest painters.

One could go on...

One prefers to like the artists one admires but it's not entirely necessary.
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From: cmcmck
2016-01-20 10:50 am (UTC)
Twice over, indeed!

Richard Dadd is a local boy here...........
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[User Picture]From: halfmoon_mollie
2016-01-19 02:56 pm (UTC)
Also not a surprise. He's had problems for a long time. I'm sorry to hear this, though.
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2016-01-19 04:14 pm (UTC)
I knew nothing about his private life- until now.
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[User Picture]From: halfmoon_mollie
2016-01-19 04:20 pm (UTC)
I think that life would be better if we knew less about celebrities' private lives. It's really none of our business. I dislike the feeding frenzies and try not to pay attention but..you know.
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2016-01-19 06:21 pm (UTC)
I agree. It's particularly the case with actors. We really don't need to know who they are when they'e not pretending to be someone else. If they have very high profile private lives it distracts from what they're trying to do in their work.
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[User Picture]From: halfmoon_mollie
2016-01-19 06:28 pm (UTC)
Yeah...how often do I hear "Well, *I* think (so and so) is a really nice person, and that's why I like his/her movies." Do I care that Cary Grant maybe was bi-sexual? Or that Tyrone Power was? Absolutely not. I love their movies. Montgomery Clift was a wonderful actor. I just plain don't care what your personal life is like, all I care about is do I like your acting. This is why I do NOT like Matthew McConaughey, it has nothing to do with his press but with the fact that I think he sucks as an actor. I used to ride the bus,in the morning, with an ex Marine ex-con who loved 'Abby' in NCIS. (that would be Paulie Perette). He used to compare every single woman he met/saw with 'Abby'. It used to make me laugh...

But it's like confusing the singer with the song.

I'm sorry. I'll step off my soapbox now.

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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2016-01-19 07:45 pm (UTC)
Cary Grant once said something like, "Everybody wants to be Cary Grant- and so do I." In real life Archibald Leach seems to have been a terribly conflicted person- a far cry from his suave persona- but that was his business. The important thing for everybody else is that he was a consummate screen actor.

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[User Picture]From: halfmoon_mollie
2016-01-19 08:45 pm (UTC)
Yes. He most certainly was.
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[User Picture]From: pondhopper
2016-01-19 03:39 pm (UTC)
The day the music died....
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2016-01-19 04:15 pm (UTC)
Sad.
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