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Thank You [Nov. 21st, 2014|06:46 pm]
Tony Grist
Thank you all for your responses to my last post.

Clearly I need to go away and do some more research....
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[User Picture]From: ingenious76
2014-11-21 07:36 pm (UTC)
You do. The whole antivaxxer paranoia is really tiresome. Contrary to what a load of nutjobs on the internet think, medical science is a wonderful gift that has helped eradicate diseases in the West that other poor souls suffer with. I've been to countries that have Polio, Tetanus, Diptheria, Typhoid - all illnesses that we can protect ourselves against. I hate to offend the Hippie Clique that seems to flourish on LJ/FB/Twitter, but when I go to countries with these diseases, I don't think drinking broccoli and chickpea smoothies will help. I want a needle in my arm giving me the shots. Quacks like Andrew Wakefield feed on fear and paranoia. If people don't want protection, fine, but don't frighten others.

Edited at 2014-11-21 07:37 pm (UTC)
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[User Picture]From: akirlu
2014-11-21 07:40 pm (UTC)
Yes, listen to your friends, please. Think of a favorite author who died prematurely of consumption and remember that immunizations save lives, and prevent a great deal of avoidable human misery.
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From: cmcmck
2014-11-21 07:42 pm (UTC)
You need to go away and get a jab!

One word: smallpox........
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[User Picture]From: ingenious76
2014-11-21 07:46 pm (UTC)
Which still exists in parts of the world where they're not lucky enough to have vaccinations!
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[User Picture]From: nineweaving
2014-11-21 10:27 pm (UTC)
Smallpox has been eradicated, though it still exists in jars in labs —a terrifying thought. What's still out there, thanks to hysteria, is polio. And tetanus, diphtheria, whooping cough, and the other plagues. Even what too many people think of "something children get" can do appalling damage.

Roald Dahl's beloved daughter Olivia died of measles.

Nine
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[User Picture]From: resonant
2014-11-22 03:30 am (UTC)
My boss nearly died two years ago, thanks to an antivaxxer child abuser who sent her kid to a "measles party" to deliberately get infected. Her kid went to the same daycare centre as my boss's kid. My boss spent three weeks in hospital, and has permanent scarring.
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[User Picture]From: ingenious76
2014-11-22 01:13 pm (UTC)
The antivaxxer should be charged for wounding with malicious intent.

I'm deadly serious. Do these idiots not realise that measles can cause deafness, infertility, and mental problems?
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From: cmcmck
2014-11-22 12:26 pm (UTC)
Friend of mine at school got polio. I'm old enough to be one of the first tranche in the UK to get that vaccine and had to just suffer measles, mumps, chickenpox and the rest. I still see Kay from time to time and she's pretty severely disabled.
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[User Picture]From: ingenious76
2014-11-22 01:12 pm (UTC)
My parents were children during the Polio outbreak. My mother got my brother and I vaxxed as soon as she could. And for that, I am very grateful.
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From: cmcmck
2014-11-22 12:24 pm (UTC)
My point entirely!

It was the biggest global killer until the vaccine- and there we anti vaccers then too- including, pretty embarrassingly, the sainted Joesphine Butler!
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[User Picture]From: ingenious76
2014-11-22 01:16 pm (UTC)
Yep. Not going to lie - anti-Vaxxers are one self righteous group of nutters I find impossible to ignore. How many parents condemned their children to the misery of measles, mumps, rubella and the hideous side effects because of that bastard Andrew Wakefield?
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[User Picture]From: xiphias
2014-11-21 09:15 pm (UTC)
Make sure that you look at the SOURCES of the things you find.

On the one hand, you'll find that the people who are in favor of vaccines are scientists, researchers, doctors, and various other people who know what they're talking about.

On the other hand, you'll find frantic loonies who have no relevant background, but pass along simply wrong information as facts.

Anti-vaxxers have the same degree of credibility as creationists and flat-earthers.
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[User Picture]From: nineweaving
2014-11-21 10:44 pm (UTC)
Ever had fish and chips? A lot more mercury comes wrapped in newspaper than jabbed in with needles—and in a much more toxic form. What concentrates in fish is methylmercury. The preservative in vaccines is ethylmercury. (They sound like Freddie's twin sisters.) Thiomersal was developed to prevent staph contamination of vaccines, which was deadly. As Merthiolate, it used to be a very common antiseptic for cuts and scrapes. In my childhood, I had it painted all over my knees and elbows, all the time, with no ill effects at all. (It stung like hell, but that was the alcohol.)

Nine
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From: cmcmck
2014-11-22 12:11 pm (UTC)
'pills of white mercury'

The only half way effective cure for the pox before antiobiotics!
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[User Picture]From: veronica_milvus
2014-11-21 11:43 pm (UTC)
Before believing scare stories it is always worth finding out what "Snopes" has to say.
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[User Picture]From: lblanchard
2014-11-22 05:03 am (UTC)
Antivaxxers. Bunch of dangerous lunatics.

Here's what our Center for Disease Control says about the dread ingredient mercury. I suspect there's a whole lot less in the flu jab than there is in your average tuna fish sandwich.

http://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/concerns/thimerosal/thimerosal_faqs.html
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From: cmcmck
2014-11-22 12:12 pm (UTC)
And as I said elsewhere, fluenz, the UK flu vaccine of choice contains none at all.

Edited at 2014-11-22 12:12 pm (UTC)
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