I was always amazed by how quickly those movies' superheros adapted to being a superhero once they found out. It is always shown like this: one minute you're insecure and don't know what you're doing and next second you're so confident and powerful. I always felt that if for some crazy reason I would turn out to be a superhero, it would take me at least couple of days, if not months, to get used to the idea and learn not to be insecure. So I always identified strongly with first part's Neo, when he's trying to fit into the role that was forced on him, saying to himself "There's no spoon" while running. He just looked believable (not to mention the plot that made sense).
I was always amazed by how quickly those movies' superheros adapted to being a superhero once they found out.
Funny that I never noticed this before, but you're so right. I just never thought it out.
2005-03-21 03:18 am (UTC)
The second two films should have been amalgamated.
I got irritated by the cod philosophy.
And I got irritated at the endless special effects fight sequences...Matrix Overblown.
The first Matrix was surprising, dazzling, thought-provoking.
The best short stories are those that tantalize the reader and let the reader imagine. Matrix gave us lots of ideas to think about, but the next two movies, with their endless, wearying chase and fight scenes, ruined the fun of speculation and wonder for me.
I'd rather they hadn't been made.
Dazzling special effects are all very well, but only if they are put at the service of a real story with real characters.
whisper His name is "Neo" - which may or may not make the movie more meaningful to you, depending on how deeply you want to get into the symbolism of it.
I would like to believe that Revolutions has hidden depths, but for me it simply squanders the capital that was built up by the first film in the sequence.
You sum up the faults of the trilogy quite nicely. The first Matrix has a secure spot in my top-10 favorite movies list; the sequels would have a hard time cracking the top-100.
Funny you bring this up now - my daughter told me last night (with all the conviction a 7 year old can muster) that she wants to be Trinity for next Halloween, and we need to get started on the costume. Now.
Carrie Anne Moss is wonderful. It's a shame that she (like all the other actors)is given so little to do in Revolutions.
From what I've heard the first matrix was not written by the Wachowski brothers and was not intended to be serialized. The first matrix was written by a woman in Brooklyn who, I've heard, is rather like the Oracle in ppersonality. She gave the script to the Brothers to be made into a movie but was untutored in the ways of the industry and lost her rights to the material. She's not even credited anywhere.
I believe this mostly because of the wild differences between the first movie and the last two. I love the first. The second and third? Barely popcorn sci-fi action.
I can believe this.
The Matrix is smart and playful. The sequels are dumb.
I'd love to know more.
(see above) suggests that the original Matrix was written by someone other than the Wachowskis. If this is true it would explain everything.
agreed on this. I also thought even the first
failed the test a child puts to fantasy and faerie
that of plausibility ,that is to say given any number
of premises of course but even granting every premise
this one does not have that simplicity and inner truth
which a faerie story can have.
but there are good things... well speaking of women as
action heros surely one becomes a Trinitarian.
I think you're right about the complexity of the premise. I still haven't quite worked out who Smith is.
matrix 2 and 3 are just a series of hoops for the new superheroes to jump through. there are really no character arcs, no furthering of anything, and no viable bad guys.
agent smith is cool. yes. but in 2 and 3 he becomes THE bad guy- sort of- through some weird fluke of fate, and has to be dealt with. oh yeah- and the matter of all those people locked up as robots-etc..
i hated the merilvingian. just- WHAT was he for? reloaded they bounce around following his orders- only to simply kick his ass in the third one for being a pain.
without even neo there to help.
so i`m like- DAMN- why didn`t u just kick his ass in the first place, when neo was with you?!
some bits i liked are when neo goes back to zion and they`re all treating him like jesus. and he is afraid to live up to it. that`s cool- and they could have played with it more. also cool was smith- and by then- he has subverted the matrix completely. why didn`t we see more of this. he is essentially killing people by taking them over- but it`s hardly even touched upon. one more thing- the train station neo is forced into in revo. love it- should have used it more. suddenly- he`s a wuss again. great stuff.
i would have liked to have seen neo waging a public relations war inside the matrix, trying to `show these people what you don`t want them to see`- like he said at the end of the first one. like- directly trying to bring them round. but he doesn`t do that. we cut back and into battle a few months later and just PRESUME they`ve been- what?- fighting? that`s ridiculous- since neo had power to bust agents apart. there was NO NEED for any fighting.
basically there was no story left to be had- as has been said already.
as for them stealing the idea- pretty much they stole the idea from everywhere. and if this woman claims terminator ripped from her as well- her stuff can`t have been that specific- it seems.
but yeah. there`s reams of stuff on the influences behind the matrix. it really is just a synthesis of a lot of cool stuff the brothers read- then spun together with a christ story to give it oomph.
a few easy ones-
neuromancer- by william gibson
ghost in the shell- japanese anime
and many many comics and other stuff...
The exciting thing about the original film is the idea that there are these alternative worlds and you can slip between them. The world of the Matrix, where "reality" can be bent is where the fun is to be had, but Revolutions largely steers clear of it.
Wussy Neo is interesting, super Neo isn't. They should have made more of the Train Man. They introduce this intriguing character and then basically do nothing with him.
And why couldn't we have explored the machine city? What we saw of it looked cool.
I liked "Dark City" much better. The acting was superior and the premise more intriguing.Both were shot in Australia.
"Both were shot in Australia"
I didn't know that. New Zealand gets all the fanfares these days. I didn't realise you guys were also in on the act.
I loved the first movie for how it carefully integrated the Matrix and the "real" world ... all the while asking questions about what is real, and how do we know? It was an action movie with brains.
The other two downplayed the Matrix to the point where they had no substance any more.
It's curious how big a discrepancy there is between the Matrix and its two sequels. The Matrix is smart and the sequels are dumb.