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Good Friday [Apr. 18th, 2014|09:09 am]
Tony Grist
Ailz says, "We won't be able to go to Oad Street; they'll be shut; it's Good Friday." And I tell her she's behind the times and the Church no longer controls the calendar. I'm right of course. The shop we want (they've framed one of Ailz's cross stitches for us) is open until 4.00 this afternoon.

I used to take Good Friday very seriously indeed. I'd be in church, cranking up the guilt machine, from twelve till three (or was it eleven till two, I forget) Those services were called At The Cross (or something like that and consisted of twelve 15 minute blocks- each containing a hymn, a reading, a sermonette and then another hymn. They were an ordeal. People came and went and for long stretches the church would be all but empty.  One very fine Good Friday the vergers opened the great west doors and left them open and the dusty sunlight and the fierce, spicy smell of the spring flowers came flooding in.
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[User Picture]From: steepholm
2014-04-18 09:27 am (UTC)
I write this to the sound of dustbins being collected. Go secularism! (All the same I can't stop a Thought for the Day voice in my head adding, "But you know, wasn't Jesus a bit like a dustman? Collecting the sins of the world and disposing of them? Dust to dust, ashes to ashes.")
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2014-04-18 10:18 am (UTC)
Polly Toynbee has an article this morning in which she says religious people are no better and no worse than anybody else and she's right of course. I'm a secularist too, but I have my twinges of religiosity.
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[User Picture]From: steepholm
2014-04-18 10:25 am (UTC)
For me, "secularism" isn't about belief or lack of - it's about the way society is set up. I don't like state-enforced religious holidays any more than I like state-funded faith schools or CoE bishops sitting ex officio in Parliament.

In terms of belief, I lean towards animism.
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2014-04-18 10:36 am (UTC)
Yes, exactly, secularism is about getting the bloody clergy off our backs.

Animism is cool. I'm a bit of a pagan, a bit of a Buddhist, a bit of a theosophist, a bit of a Wiccan- even a bit of a Christian when the wind's in the right direction.
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[User Picture]From: raakone
2014-04-18 02:01 pm (UTC)
I think what ritual you speak of is called "The Stations of the Cross." It's also known as the Way of the Cross (Via Crucis) or Way of Sorrows (Via Dolorosa) It's a Good Friday (and sometimes Lenten) tradition to pray at each station (usually 14, but the number may vary). It's mostly a Roman Catholic thing, but also Anglicans and Lutherans observe it.
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2014-04-18 05:22 pm (UTC)
The service I conducted wasn't The Stations of the Cross- but a variant- a sort of middle-of-the-road Anglican variant.
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From: artkouros
2014-04-18 02:16 pm (UTC)
I was raised Southern Baptist, so Easter meant a nice meal and a new suit coat (or pretty dress if you were so inclined). And magical creatures bringing candy - because that's what God means in America.
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2014-04-18 05:25 pm (UTC)
That's very largely what God means in Britain too.
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[User Picture]From: lblanchard
2014-04-18 06:34 pm (UTC)
I've had it with the guilt machine. I almost walked out on the Palm Sunday service, which had a reading of the St. Matthew Passion in lieu of the sermon. We were all to take the part of the crowd, screaming "crucify him!" I sat in stony silence.
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2014-04-18 08:41 pm (UTC)
I flirted with a return to the Church a few years back and it brought me close to a nervous breakdown. These days I keep well away.
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[User Picture]From: lblanchard
2014-04-19 03:22 pm (UTC)
I remember. I go to keep Roy company. I'm okay with communion because the rector begins with "wherever you are at your spiritual journey." I think that includes disbelief and hostility.
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[User Picture]From: ooxc
2014-04-23 07:36 pm (UTC)
"The THree Hours"? I thought that disappeared in around 1952, in favour of The Liturgy at 1400 or 1500.
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2014-04-24 07:31 am (UTC)
The priests who trained me were still doing it- and I would have conducted my last one in 1985 or 86.
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[User Picture]From: ooxc
2014-04-24 03:48 pm (UTC)
Have checked, although only partially. We moved in 1954, from a parish that was still doing it. Can't check the exact year that the new parish stopped doing it, but definitely by 1962
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