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Stuart Hall [May. 4th, 2013|11:19 am]
Tony Grist
The Mail had a quote from Stuart Hall's autobiography. Apparently as a young man he turned down the chance to become a professional footballer because the wages wouldn't have been enough "to keep me in tarts and fags".

Tarts, fags- same thing really- two of life's little pleasures.

Is that his view of women? I suppose it must be, because if he saw women as persons I don't think he could have done the things he did and lived to 83 being all jolly and such.

Did he never feel a twinge of self-disgust? Never feel tempted to put a gun-barrel in his mouth?

His youngest victim was 9. 
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[User Picture]From: porsupah
2013-05-04 11:23 am (UTC)
Good grief.. I hadn't even heard about the case, although I notice Wikipedia's entry notes there had been reporting restrictions in place until a couple days ago.

If anything good can be said of his conduct, at least he did finally plead guilty, rather than dragging it through a lengthy court process, which would surely have been traumatic for his victims (again).
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2013-05-04 11:48 am (UTC)
Finally. Yes, but not before he'd stood up and denied everything and called the accusations "cruel".

He's quite a piece of work...
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2013-05-04 11:54 am (UTC)
How does a person get that way? Is it nature or nurture?

Actually, I suppose I know the answer to that. Some people are born without empathy- not really their fault- there's something wrong with their brains. Others are shaped that way- by a society that encourages the objectification of people.
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2013-05-04 01:13 pm (UTC)
Yes, I go along with that.

Stuart Hall was a smart guy- smarter than the shows he appeared in. He knew he was doing bad things and he did them anyway. In some ways I find him scarier than Savile. Savile was clearly odd- a person whose sexuality was mysterious but plainly not mainstream- but with Hall there were no warning signs. He was a jolly uncle- a bit fruity perhaps but not in "that" way. I don't think I'd have trusted my kids with Savile but I'd have trusted them with him.
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From: artkouros
2013-05-04 12:58 pm (UTC)
I'll read "tarts and fags" as "pies and guys" if that's OK.
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2013-05-04 01:13 pm (UTC)
Mmmm... Pies!
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