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Really? [Apr. 17th, 2013|08:09 pm]
Tony Grist
The TV pundits keep saying it's unlikely that any future politician will ever have such a grand funeral. How can they possibly know? Do they think history is over?
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[User Picture]From: veronikos
2013-04-17 08:21 pm (UTC)
>> it's unlikely that any future politician will ever have such a grand funeral. How can they possibly know?

It is a reasonable inference bordering on certainty, based on the fact that England is slowly running out of money, and it won't be able to afford this again. :D
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2013-04-17 08:47 pm (UTC)
But that's a short term view. Who knows what state we'll be in in another century or two. :)

Besides, we mounted this funeral in spite of not really being able to afford it.
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[User Picture]From: ooxc
2013-04-17 08:52 pm (UTC)
Perhaps that's what's meant - that we might learn from the unpopularity of this one -
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[User Picture]From: steepholm
2013-04-17 09:07 pm (UTC)
"Ever" is a long time, though. Even if we learn, what are the chances our great-great-grandchildren will remember?
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[User Picture]From: ooxc
2013-04-17 09:21 pm (UTC)
True
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2013-04-18 10:21 am (UTC)
But what if another Churchill were to come along?

He might.
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[User Picture]From: ooxc
2013-04-18 02:30 pm (UTC)
I'm not convinced that he deserved t, either -
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2013-04-18 05:46 pm (UTC)
But then, who does?
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[User Picture]From: ooxc
2013-04-18 06:02 pm (UTC)
Just so - I didn't make myself clear. State funerals aren't, in my view, for politicians - they are an international "jolly" for royals and their relations. I doubt that there'd ever have been another, if there hadn't been all that fuss over Churchill, because there aren't enough royals left, to make it worth doing.
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[User Picture]From: steepholm
2013-04-17 09:08 pm (UTC)
If it's not hyperbolic it's hardly worth saying, seems to be the view. It's a kind of semantic inflation, in which bad sense chases out the good.
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2013-04-18 10:23 am (UTC)
And yet I don't feel that the British people- as a whole- have much appetite for this grandiosity. The funeral was designed to hit us hard- and it didn't. it was just another thing on the News.
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[User Picture]From: ooxc
2013-04-18 02:33 pm (UTC)
I thought that it was more designed to appease the overseas grandees, who wanted a state funeral to show off at.
In the result, no-one was happy - they didn't get their carriage parade and other perks, and we still grumbled about the cost
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2013-04-18 05:47 pm (UTC)
And then the whole thing got kicked off the News by the bombings in Boston.
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From: artkouros
2013-04-17 09:40 pm (UTC)
All future politicians will be launched into the sun.
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2013-04-18 10:24 am (UTC)
Now that would be expensive!
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From: artkouros
2013-04-19 12:59 pm (UTC)
Worth every penny.
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[User Picture]From: xiphias
2013-04-17 11:05 pm (UTC)
Yes. We've been living on borrowed time since the Mayan calendar ended, and now that New Zealand has legalized gay marriage, it's only a matter of days before the world is destroyed.
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2013-04-18 10:25 am (UTC)
Ah yes, of course :)
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From: cmcmck
2013-04-18 03:57 pm (UTC)
I'm a historian and history has a long memory even if individuals don't!

There's a chiel amangst ye taking notes and faith he'll [sic] prent it!'
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From: (Anonymous)
2013-04-18 11:12 am (UTC)
Do they mean Blair won't get a funeral like this one?
Jenny x
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From: (Anonymous)
2013-04-18 04:20 pm (UTC)
Maybe it is because they think that Blair won't get one.
Jenny x
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2013-04-18 05:44 pm (UTC)
He won't.
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