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No, He Can't Have Meant Mountbatten: Mountbatten Was Into Boys... [Oct. 27th, 2012|03:34 pm]
Tony Grist
I thought the most interesting line in the Panorama programme about Savile was Meirion Jones' description of the girls approved school Duncroft Hall as a place much frequented by celebrities and "minor royalty". I'd love to know who he was talking about. Will any mainstream news outfit follow this up? I wonder....

Over the last few days I've been honing my indignation on a book about the Illuminati and related topics. While I don't find it necessary to believe the global elite are all black magicians and lizard spawn I do think they routinely get away with murder (and not always figuratively.)  If the only people who get trashed in the aftermath of the Savile affair are a few elderly comics and DJs I'll be very disappointed but not greatly surprised. 

[User Picture]From: ooxc
2012-10-27 06:25 pm (UTC)
Mountbatten ? Boys? So why did he write to his daughter that her mother was "understanding about my girlfriends"? Was that a bluf?
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2012-10-27 07:45 pm (UTC)
Could have been.

Perhaps he was bisexual.
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[User Picture]From: veronica_milvus
2012-10-27 11:02 pm (UTC)
Well that would certainly explain why it was hushed up. Where did you hear that?
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2012-10-28 09:45 am (UTC)
It's out there on the Net. Apparently his staff used to call him "Mountbottom".
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[User Picture]From: michaleen
2012-10-28 12:50 pm (UTC)
Point of history: the Illuminati were a conspiracy against this sort of power and its abuse. It's part of why they were demonized by Church and State and remain a favorite bogeyman of right-wing cranks, today.

In general, you will find that most, if not in fact all, conspiracy theories are deployed in defense of the power and privilege of the wealthy elite.

Agreed on that detail emerging about Duncroft. One of the celebrities was apparently James Robertson Justice. Who counts as "minor royalty", I wonder?
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2012-10-28 09:15 pm (UTC)
I don't understand your second point. How does it serve the interests of the global elite to maintain that 9/11 was an inside job, or the moon landings were faked, or HM the Queen is a lizard?
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[User Picture]From: michaleen
2012-10-29 12:17 pm (UTC)
9-11 was a result of profound and perhaps even willful negligence on the part of the Cheney-Bush junta. The simple facts were staring everyone in the face and the Truthers should have been hammering those, not chasing and churning pseudo-scientific bullshit. Every caps-locked post and garish wake-up-sheeple web page was used to discredit critics of the Great War on Terror.

This is the paradox of such paranoia. Conspiracy enthusiasts eagerly swallow the idea that 9-11 was a complex and flawlessly executed inside job, without a single leak or turncoat, yet stick at the notion that they're being played for chumps, that real conspirators are using their paranoid fantasies to misdirect public attention and discredit critics.

The Moon shot was heavily promoted by John F Kennedy, one of the archfiends of the conservative Inferno, and offered incontestable proof that tax revenues may be usefully spent on popular, successful, and ground-breaking programs. This is in direct contradiction to the conservative world view, so an alternate 'truth' had to be 'found'.

The reptilian thing strikes me as classic authoritarian paranoia. Conservatism is the desire to concentrate power in the hands of the right sort and what could be more horrific to the authoritarian mindset than the idea that HM is not even human, let alone a proper sovereign? Besides, it's all about who is breeding with what, isn't it? Such things don't concern progressives nearly so much, I find, and you and I are quite comfortable with the idea that the Windsors are monsters, albeit of the all-too-human sort. We don't need fairy tales to convince us, since the ordinary facts of our experience are more than sufficient.

There's an old yet very good and still quite timely essay on conspiracy mongering in American politics:

"The Paranoid Style in American Politics"

Most insightful, especially in these latter days, when the entire Republican party exists wholly within an alternate reality created and mediated by Rupert Murdoch and Roger Ailes.
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2012-10-31 03:16 pm (UTC)
I'll go with wilful negligence. There seem to be indications that a lot of people had advance knowledge of the 9/11 attack. It may not have been an inside job- exactly- but I'm sure the official story has been heavily redacted.

I was thinking in my innocence that everyone was behind Kennedy and the moon landings. After all putting an American man on the moon was a great way of sticking it to the Godless commies.

I can imagine the Queen as a lizard. There's something very reptilian about her. But if the theory is to hold every other British royal must have been lizard too- and that's hard to believe. Was silly little Queen Victoria a lizard? Was poor old mad George III?

I must read that essay. Thanks for the link.
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[User Picture]From: michaleen
2012-11-01 06:57 pm (UTC)
Willful negligence is a distinct possibility, one that in my deep and bitter loathing of those evil rat bastards I naturally prefer. The junta was presented with multiple warnings and ignored them all. My guess is they didn't think it would end quite as badly as it did, in their crass stupidity underestimating their opponent and his capabilities.

That the Cheney-Bush junta used the attack to their personal and political advantage is undeniable, I think. This may be my biggest disagreement with Obama -- Lard bless him. We should have had a protracted and soulful truth and reconciliation process that ended in Darth Cheney and C-Plus Augustus standing accused of their crimes before the World Court. I think I understand the President's political calculus, I just don't agree with it.

There were mumblings in my childhood that the space program was adversely affecting the weather and man wasn't meant to touch the heavens, anyway. It was rural Virginia, of course, but still the mind boggles.

Agreed on Elizabeth, too. That's what's almost charming about this particular lunacy. I shall happily stipulate that the old girl's a reptile. It's easier than imagining a fellow human like HM the Q.
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