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Take Your Pick [Feb. 22nd, 2017|12:13 pm]
Tony Grist
A British jihadi who was locked up in Gitmo for a couple of years blows himself up in Iraq and...

Depending on what media site you feel comfortable with....

Either the Americans were right to lock him up and if they'd been thinking straight they'd have thrown away the key.

or

a monstrous miscarrage of justice took place and it's no wonder the man became radicalised.

or

The security services let us all down and what we need is more surveillance....
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[User Picture]From: howlin_wolf_66
2017-02-22 01:59 pm (UTC)
I don't know which site it came from, but personally I pick the first... No amount of mistreatment justifies such heinous acts. Empathy is the thing that makes us most human, and some people just don't have it.
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2017-02-22 03:41 pm (UTC)
My interest is in the way a news item can be spun to fit an existing political agenda.
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[User Picture]From: howlin_wolf_66
2017-02-22 04:07 pm (UTC)
Anything can be spun any which way, if one tries hard enough.
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[User Picture]From: matrixmann
2017-02-22 02:27 pm (UTC)
That's why there is the urge today - and tomorrow and in 10 years - to not just put the attributes "victim" and "evildoer" to whole groups of people and treat them according to that without even looking in their faces.
Once they called that "prejudice"; you can also have that in positive terms "Oh, no! A person from that group can't do evil! They have endured so much pain and loss, they literally are all poor bastards and need our help! There can't be any violent people among them, why would people who endured so much suddenly become violent?!". (Every person who studied psychology or has an idea of it can tell you how quick that can come.)
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2017-02-22 03:44 pm (UTC)
His face is all over the British media today. He's pictured in a still from an IS propaganda video wired up to his car bomb grinning at the camera.

He had rather a nice face....
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[User Picture]From: matrixmann
2017-02-22 04:50 pm (UTC)
"Nice" is always something that depends on the position of that one who looks at someone.
I find, lots of people didn't ever hear about the "small child pattern" (in German it's called "Kindchenschema" and I find that term much more suiting, but it seems like there is no propper translation to it), for example, but they let themselves by blinded by it. Same with other subtle psychology. They think in simple terms and are as trusting towards others like little children, which don't ever think in "one of these adults could do anything to me that I don't want". Children can think like that as they're still children, but adults can't think so. Adults need to be wiser than that and need to be aware of the fact that you can't judge books by their covers, transmitted on a human: They can't judge somebody only by his nice or shady looks.
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