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Leonard Cohen RIP [Nov. 12th, 2016|11:40 am]
Tony Grist
He placed himself a hundred floors below Hank Williams but I think that was unduly modest of him. He was a true poet and wrote lines that scald. It was an interesting life and he sang every part of it. I don't think he's left us, really- just moved to that tower down the track.
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[User Picture]From: cmcmck
2016-11-12 12:03 pm (UTC)
'Myself I long for love and light,
But must it come so cruel, and oh so bright?'
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2016-11-12 01:13 pm (UTC)
A master of language. Dylan's equal- but so very different.
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[User Picture]From: porsupah
2016-11-12 03:08 pm (UTC)
I've seen some argue that Cohen should've received the Nobel rather than Dylan. It'd be a hugely difficult task to separate their worth - both seem admirably well qualified, though as I recall, Nobel prizes can't be awarded posthumously.

And then Robert Vaughn, too, gone at 83. Maybe not as much of a worldwide cultural influence, but still, he'll long be remembered as The Man from UNCLE, not to mention the wise, highly experienced figure of Hustle.
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2016-11-12 04:30 pm (UTC)
Dylan is protean and prolific, Cohen was very meticulous. They could hardly be more different. The Academy chose the right one, I think, but Cohen would have been a worthy winner too.

I loved The Man From Uncle.
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[User Picture]From: faeriefiles
2016-11-12 03:42 pm (UTC)
I think his every increasing spirit energy finally exploded from the human suit he was wearing and yes, he's kinda bouncing around totally free now. One of my favorite singer/story tellers.
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2016-11-12 04:32 pm (UTC)
That's a good way of putting it. He's one of my favourites too. I played my copy of his first album to death back in 1970.
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[User Picture]From: faeriefiles
2016-11-13 05:51 pm (UTC)
I got started on his music at a young age too. :)
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2016-11-13 06:07 pm (UTC)
I was the right age, in my late teens- when Cohen first came on the scene.

I remember a school friend- who is now a bishop and might not want to be reminded of it- telling us that he'd read that "he (Cohen) treats a woman's body like an altar" and all of us going, "Wow."
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[User Picture]From: faeriefiles
2016-11-13 06:19 pm (UTC)
I think he was raised Jewish,right? From what I've been told, the rules for the treatment of women are pretty much that way across the board with Jewish men. I did a big job for a local Shul and learned quite a bit about that while I was there. A Jewish friend told me that Jewish men are actually prohibited from orgasm until after their female partner is satisfied and there are apparently a lot of rules for the careful treatment of females. Some may see that as misogynistic, I thought it was kind of sweet in the way they practiced it. Not the religion for a feminist woman (which Is a box I don't fit in) but sweet nevertheless.
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2016-11-13 06:53 pm (UTC)
Yes, he was Jewish. It permeates his work I think.
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[User Picture]From: negothick
2016-11-14 02:24 am (UTC)
I can attest that his songs are used in synagogue services. My own women's choir sings "Who By Fire" at Rosh HaShona services. A friend's choir just sang "Hallelujah" at her Reform (Liberal) temple.
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2016-11-14 09:17 am (UTC)
I'm not surprised. I think those songs would fit right in to a liturgical framework.
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